Yet another attempt...

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Nigel Hewitt

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• Nov 10, 2005

• #21

Brian wrote:
> Ian Rawlings wrote:
> The main difference between Aussie's and NZers is that when our
> ancestors left England, they were hand-cuffed, while we were hand
> picked!

Now where was it I read that if a NZer emigrates to Aus it increases
the average IQ of both countries?

I'm not tempted.

nigelH

 

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Brian

Guest

• Nov 10, 2005

• #22

Nigel Hewitt wrote:
> Brian wrote:
>
>>Ian Rawlings wrote:
>>The main difference between Aussie's and NZers is that when our
>>ancestors left England, they were hand-cuffed, while we were hand
>>picked!
>
>
> Now where was it I read that if a NZer emigrates to Aus it increases
> the average IQ of both countries?
>
> I'm not tempted.
>
> nigelH
>
>

I can't argure with that. I makes sense to me, a low IQ Kiwi is brighter
than a high IQ Aussie........

But the way things are going, I can see the old joke "Will the last
person to leave NZ please turn out the light" making a comeback.......

What NZ really needs is someone that can make Series Landrover chassis
from scratch (at a reasonable price of course). I see 'dead' Landie's
everywhere that need a home, and the majority of them are complete, but
have rusted out chassis's. Iv'e only got a 1/4 acre section, but Iv'e
already got five Landie's stashed on it. This weekend I'm off around the
coast to do a deal on two more....A SIII LWB diesel and a SIIA SWB (both
with hardtops) for $500 NZ (under 200 pounds). Of course, neither have
been started in the last ????? years and I'm going to have to cut them
out of a hedge, but what the hell.....I just like the look of them and
they make great playhouses for kids.


Brian NZ

 

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EMB

Guest

• Nov 10, 2005

• #23

Nigel Hewitt wrote:
> Brian wrote:
>
>>Ian Rawlings wrote:
>>The main difference between Aussie's and NZers is that when our
>>ancestors left England, they were hand-cuffed, while we were hand
>>picked!
>
>
> Now where was it I read that if a NZer emigrates to Aus it increases
> the average IQ of both countries?
>
> I'm not tempted.

Former NZ PM Rob Muldoon made that observation many years ago. And I'm
not overly tempted to emigrate to Aus either - too many nasty,
poisonous, slithering, biting, obnoxious things there (like snakes,
spiders and so forth).


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EMB

 

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EMB

Guest

• Nov 10, 2005

• #24

Brian wrote:
>
> What NZ really needs is someone that can make Series Landrover chassis
> from scratch (at a reasonable price of course). I see 'dead' Landie's
> everywhere that need a home, and the majority of them are complete, but
> have rusted out chassis's. Iv'e only got a 1/4 acre section, but Iv'e
> already got five Landie's stashed on it. This weekend I'm off around the
> coast to do a deal on two more....A SIII LWB diesel and a SIIA SWB (both
> with hardtops) for $500 NZ (under 200 pounds). Of course, neither have
> been started in the last ????? years and I'm going to have to cut them
> out of a hedge, but what the hell.....I just like the look of them and
> they make great playhouses for kids.

I've looked into making chassis - but the demand isn't there to justify
me getting set up with a decent jig to do them. And even then I'd be
hard pressed to make them at a decent price compared to buying a bulk
lot from one of the UK manufacturers and shipping them here.

At the moment Richards Chassis will sell you a single galvanised SIII
SWB chassis for 540 quid which is about $1400. Even with shipping and
paying GST to get it into the country I'd expect the total to be under
$2500 for a one-off shipment. When I priced making one up a while ago
the numbers were looking like that for doing them in low volumes here
(and that was allowing my time at a discount to our usual charge out rate).

Incidentally, if you want an easily repairable SIII SWB chassis with
live registration let me know as I've got one here (Auckland).


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EMB

 

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Brian

Guest

• Nov 10, 2005

• #25

EMB wrote:

> I've looked into making chassis - but the demand isn't there to justify
> me getting set up with a decent jig to do them. And even then I'd be
> hard pressed to make them at a decent price compared to buying a bulk
> lot from one of the UK manufacturers and shipping them here.

Even if I could get the 'pain in the arse' parts of the chassis (front
spring hangers, and rear cross member/bumper) it would be a help, but
I'm sick of patching chassis's, chasing one rusted out section after
another....


>
> At the moment Richards Chassis will sell you a single galvanised SIII
> SWB chassis for 540 quid which is about $1400. Even with shipping and
> paying GST to get it into the country I'd expect the total to be under
> $2500 for a one-off shipment. When I priced making one up a while ago
> the numbers were looking like that for doing them in low volumes here
> (and that was allowing my time at a discount to our usual charge out rate).


Iv'e seen the galv. chassis in the pommie mags, but, like you say, the
price to get them down here is just too much.

Are there any chassis plans available, or would you just do a measure up
and copy an existing one? I'm a draftie, and wouldn't mind getting some
costs on getting all the chassis parts plasma cut locally.


>
> Incidentally, if you want an easily repairable SIII SWB chassis with
> live registration let me know as I've got one here (Auckland).
>
>

I wish I had a dollar for every time I heard 'easily reparable'! It's
like a 'handymans dream' when it comes to housing.....BUT.....How much
do you want for it? I don't mind travelling to pick up bits. The short
wheelbase SIII I have, I towed down from Waipapa in the Bay of Islands
to Inglewood in Taranaki. A bit of a mission.....

Thanks
Brian NZ

 

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EMB

Guest

• Nov 10, 2005

• #26

Brian wrote:

> Even if I could get the 'pain in the arse' parts of the chassis (front
> spring hangers, and rear cross member/bumper) it would be a help, but
> I'm sick of patching chassis's, chasing one rusted out section after
> another....

By the time you make them up, and then actually disassemble things
enough to fit them properly, line them up accurately and weld them in it
gets expensive - I recently made and fitted a rear 1/4 chassis to a SWB,
and it turned into an expensive job.

> Iv'e seen the galv. chassis in the pommie mags, but, like you say, the
> price to get them down here is just too much.
>
> Are there any chassis plans available, or would you just do a measure up
> and copy an existing one? I'm a draftie, and wouldn't mind getting some
> costs on getting all the chassis parts plasma cut locally.

I believe there's some plans available in Autocad format somewhere on
the net - someone here may know of the source. Otherwise I'd measure
one up and go from there. The biggest expense is building a jig to make
them up in so that they don't twist when being welded. When I looked at
it I got the feeling that you'd blow a big hole in $6K making a decent jig.

I've just (last 10 minutes) been talking to my tame sheet metal shop
about prices for plasma cutting a chassis. We came up with $300 to cut
out all the requisite bits, but that was a real stab in the dark so the
actual price could be quite different once the job is done.


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EMB

 

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Brian

Guest

• Nov 10, 2005

• #27

EMB wrote:

>
> I believe there's some plans available in Autocad format somewhere on
> the net - someone here may know of the source. Otherwise I'd measure
> one up and go from there. The biggest expense is building a jig to make
> them up in so that they don't twist when being welded. When I looked at
> it I got the feeling that you'd blow a big hole in $6K making a decent jig.
>
> I've just (last 10 minutes) been talking to my tame sheet metal shop
> about prices for plasma cutting a chassis. We came up with $300 to cut
> out all the requisite bits, but that was a real stab in the dark so the
> actual price could be quite different once the job is done.
>
>

A big thanks for the phone call. I jump onto a newsgroup one day, and
the next day I'm organising how to pick up another chassis!

Landrover people rule!

Brian NZ

 

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Austin Shackles

Guest

• Nov 11, 2005

• #28

On or around Fri, 11 Nov 2005 09:24:06 +1300, Brian <[email protected]>
enlightened us thusly:

>If you think England is unrestrictive, you'd love NZ!
>

I'm quite tempted, I have to say. However there are some difficulties
involved, such as an absence of dosh for the fare, and intervening large wet
bits that preclude loading all me tools into the landy and heading
southwards, doing odd jobs as I go.

seriously, though... it'd been my impression that if you're the wrong side
of 35 and not "qualified" then it's a good bit more difficult to get in.

Mind, I've got a BSc in Physics. Not that it's of any use in the real
world...
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
"The breezy call of incense-breathing Morn, The swallow twittering
from the strawbuilt shed, The cock's shrill clarion, or the echoing
horn, No more shall rouse them from their lowly bed."
Thomas Gray, Elegy Written in a Country Churchyard.

 

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EMB

Guest

• Nov 11, 2005

• #29

Austin Shackles wrote:
> On or around Fri, 11 Nov 2005 09:24:06 +1300, Brian <[email protected]>
> enlightened us thusly:
>
>
>>If you think England is unrestrictive, you'd love NZ!
>>
>
>
> I'm quite tempted, I have to say. However there are some difficulties
> involved, such as an absence of dosh for the fare, and intervening large wet
> bits that preclude loading all me tools into the landy and heading
> southwards, doing odd jobs as I go.
>
> seriously, though... it'd been my impression that if you're the wrong side
> of 35 and not "qualified" then it's a good bit more difficult to get in.
>
> Mind, I've got a BSc in Physics. Not that it's of any use in the real
> world...

But well recognised by the NZ immigration bods.

--
EMB

 

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Austin Shackles

Guest

• Nov 11, 2005

• #30

On or around Fri, 11 Nov 2005 10:12:13 +1300, EMB <[email protected]>
enlightened us thusly:

>Nigel Hewitt wrote:
>> Brian wrote:
>>
>>>Ian Rawlings wrote:
>>>The main difference between Aussie's and NZers is that when our
>>>ancestors left England, they were hand-cuffed, while we were hand
>>>picked!
>>
>>
>> Now where was it I read that if a NZer emigrates to Aus it increases
>> the average IQ of both countries?
>>
>> I'm not tempted.
>
>Former NZ PM Rob Muldoon made that observation many years ago. And I'm
>not overly tempted to emigrate to Aus either - too many nasty,
>poisonous, slithering, biting, obnoxious things there (like snakes,
>spiders and so forth).

If I could sort my absence of dosh a bit I'd still be tempted. Increasingly
****ed off with the PTB in this country.
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
"The breezy call of incense-breathing Morn, The swallow twittering
from the strawbuilt shed, The cock's shrill clarion, or the echoing
horn, No more shall rouse them from their lowly bed."
Thomas Gray, Elegy Written in a Country Churchyard.

 

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Ian Rawlings

Guest

• Nov 11, 2005

• #31

On 2005-11-11, Austin Shackles <[email protected]> wrote:

> I'm quite tempted, I have to say. However there are some
> difficulties involved, such as an absence of dosh for the fare, and
> intervening large wet bits that preclude loading all me tools into
> the landy and heading southwards, doing odd jobs as I go.

I've been mulling over Canada for a while, however the merkins are a
little too nearby for comfort. I'll probably settle on France (for
the food, wine and roads) or Portugal, as I could do with being able
to get back to Blightly on occasion without having to leave anything
bigger than a suitcase behind.

Like you though, lack of cash is an issue, buying a house a few years
ago didn't help!

--
For every expert, there is an equal but opposite expert

 

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Dave Liquorice

Guest

• Nov 11, 2005

• #32

On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 09:49:48 +0000, Austin Shackles wrote:

> However there are some difficulties involved, such as an absence of
> dosh for the fare, and intervening large wet bits that preclude
> loading all me tools into the landy and heading southwards, doing
> odd jobs as I go.

What large wet bits? Through the tunnel and drive East, no wet bit
until you get to Singapore. There are ferries between the indonesian
Islands and I should imagine from Indonesia to OZ. So the only serious
gap is OZ to NZ. Any ferries there, I'd be surprised if not.

Remember it is almost practical to get from the UK to the US without
getting into a boat or plane.

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Cheers [email protected]
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Simon Isaacs

Guest

• Nov 11, 2005

• #33

On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 11:40:56 +0000, Ian Rawlings
<[email protected]> scribbled the following nonsense:

>On 2005-11-11, Austin Shackles <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I'm quite tempted, I have to say. However there are some
>> difficulties involved, such as an absence of dosh for the fare, and
>> intervening large wet bits that preclude loading all me tools into
>> the landy and heading southwards, doing odd jobs as I go.
>
>I've been mulling over Canada for a while, however the merkins are a
>little too nearby for comfort. I'll probably settle on France (for
>the food, wine and roads) or Portugal, as I could do with being able
>to get back to Blightly on occasion without having to leave anything
>bigger than a suitcase behind.
>
>Like you though, lack of cash is an issue, buying a house a few years
>ago didn't help!

toying with france or crete at the mo.......
--

Simon Isaacs

Peterborough 4x4 Club Newsletter Editor and Webmaster
Green Lane Association (GLASS) Financial Director
101 Ambi, undergoing camper conversion www.simoni.co.uk
1976 S3 LWT, Fully restored, ready for sale! Make me an offer!
Suzuki SJ410 (Wife's) 3" lift kit fitted, body shell now restored and mounted on chassis, waiting on a windscreen and MOT
Series 3 88" Rolling chassis...what to do next
1993 200 TDi Discovery
1994 200 TDi Discovery body sheel, being bobbed and modded.....
1979 Range Ruster body shell and chassis

 

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EMB

Guest

• Nov 11, 2005

• #34

Dave Liquorice wrote:
> On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 09:49:48 +0000, Austin Shackles wrote:
>
>
>>However there are some difficulties involved, such as an absence of
>>dosh for the fare, and intervening large wet bits that preclude
>>loading all me tools into the landy and heading southwards, doing
>>odd jobs as I go.
>
>
> What large wet bits? Through the tunnel and drive East, no wet bit
> until you get to Singapore. There are ferries between the indonesian
> Islands and I should imagine from Indonesia to OZ. So the only serious
> gap is OZ to NZ. Any ferries there, I'd be surprised if not.

No ferries from Indonesia to Aus - they've got enough problem with
refugees in old tubs trying to make their way to Aus without putting on
a commercial service.

Going back many years when my mother made this trip (by much the route
described above) the bastards *dropped* her Series II into the hold of
the ship whilst loading it in Singapore - exit one rather nice vehicle,
and start of a blind panic to find a replacement.

And Aus to NZ - bit far for a ferry really (1300 miles Auckland/Sydney),
and there's not really a lot of demand for slow passenger trips there.
There is however a reasonable cargo service that would probably be happy
enough taking a vehicle for you.


>
> Remember it is almost practical to get from the UK to the US without
> getting into a boat or plane.


--
EMB

 

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Larry

Guest

• Nov 11, 2005

• #35

So if I am in 2wd mode I am ok then?


--
Larry
Series 3 rust and holes

believe in the laws of mathematics"


"Fred Labrosse" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> All,
>
> I just read in Saturday's motoring supplement of the Daily Telegraph that
> there's yet another attempt at banning 4x4 access to unsurfaced roads.
>
> Is that serious? Anybody got more info?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Fred
>

 

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Larry

Guest

• Nov 11, 2005

• #36

Even Blind Jack of Knaresborough could have told you that.


--
Larry
Series 3 rust and holes

"Alex" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news[email protected]...
>
> Indeed, I've seen lanes that are completely unusable either by vehicle
> or by pedestrian because they've been chewed into a quagmire by
> horses.
>
> Alex

 

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Larry

Guest

• Nov 11, 2005

• #37

Hey I'm a disabled artist am I exempt (though I have to come clean and admit
I am not a one legged lesbian)

--
Larry
Series 3 rust and holes

"beamendsltd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:59f988c74d%[email protected]...
> In message <[email protected]>
> Brian <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
> Minority special interest groups only get a look in if those they
> represent are of non-European background, are children or, to
> selected extent, disabled - and "the Arts".
> That might seem cynical, but it's true as far as I can see.
>
> Whether we like it or not, off-roaders (that is, those of us who
> enjoy off-road driving) are unpopular with the general public. We
> have a severe image problem, which we seem unwilling to address.
>
> Richard
> --
> www.beamends-lrspares.co.uk [email protected]
> Running a business in a Microsoft free environment - it can be done
> Powered by Risc-OS - you won't get a virus from us!!
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Larry

Guest

• Nov 11, 2005

• #38

It would be fun if I got a yoke of oxen to tow me along a green lane
wouldn't it


--
Larry
Series 3 rust and holes

"beamendsltd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:3b1388c74d%[email protected]...
> In message <[email protected]>
> Ian Rawlings <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
> And they formed an "alliance" with the BDS (British Driving
> Society) to allow horse-drawn vehicles to use some unsurfaced
> rights of way (some new catagory - can't remember what they call it),
> this prevented the carriage driving fraternatity having to support
> other off-road users.
>
> Richard
> --
> www.beamends-lrspares.co.uk [email protected]
> Running a business in a Microsoft free environment - it can be done
> Powered by Risc-OS - you won't get a virus from us!!
> Boycott the Yorkshire Dales - No Play, No Pay

 

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beamendsltd

Guest

• Nov 12, 2005

• #39

In message <[email protected]>
"Larry" <[email protected]> wrote:

> It would be fun if I got a yoke of oxen to tow me along a green lane
> wouldn't it
>
>

No! I've done many miles off-road on a horse and cart and, except for
nice sunny very dry days, fun isn't a word I'd use. Partucularly when
Meg got rattled and set off down a lane at full gallop........ pass
the brown courdroys!

Richard
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Running a business in a Microsoft free environment - it can be done
Powered by Risc-OS - you won't get a virus from us!!
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Dave Liquorice

Guest

• Nov 12, 2005

• #40

On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 07:56:42 +1300, EMB wrote:

> No ferries from Indonesia to Aus - they've got enough problem with
> refugees in old tubs trying to make their way to Aus without putting
> on a commercial service.

I wasn't sure, no recollection of ferries from my RTW trip in the
early 90's but then the idea of backpacking across the middle of Oz
didn't really appeal. I don't like heat.

> And Aus to NZ - bit far for a ferry really (1300 miles
> Auckland/Sydney),

It's all a bit bigger than it looks down there. B-)

> and there's not really a lot of demand for slow passenger trips
> there. There is however a reasonable cargo service that would
> probably be happy enough taking a vehicle for you.

That would do, provided they don't drop it...

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Cheers [email protected]
Dave. pam is missing e-mail