XZL's tubed or tubless?

According to their website, Land Rover currently fit tubless Latitude Cross tyres as standard on their new 110's and offer both tubed and tubeless XZL's as options for the steel wheels.

I need to purchase a new set of tyres for my 110 and think the XZL's would be good but should I go for tubed or tubeless tyres?

Also, I plan to drive down to the Alps next winter. How to the XZL's perform on snow and ice and when temperatures are lower? www.moto-tyres.co.uk lists them as a summer tyre. Anyone know why this is?

Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.

Get tubless tyres I cannot think of any reason why tubed would be an advantage.

slim jim said:

Get tubed tyres I cannot think of any reason why tubless would be an advantage.

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I can think of three. First off the tyre valves of tubed tyres seem to be far more prone to damage caused by deep mud or snow. This is probably where they are a loose fit within the valve hole and the weight of the mud/snow allows em to move. The second one is that if you run over a screw or nail and get a small hole in yer tyre, a tubeless tyre will take longer to go down as it will reseal better. Obviously if you split a tyre wall or have a blow out it doesn't matter whether you have tubes or not. yer stil;l fecked. The third is that if you have a rough surface inside one of your wheels (rust, sticker etc) it will wear through the tube and puncture it. I tubed one of my tyres a couple of yers back after running over a tent peg at the Glastonbury festival. I had nothing but grief from it after. I would still fit a tube to one of my tyres but only as an emergency get me out the deep stufff temp repair.

Fixed my first post, sorry it was the wrong way around.

slim jim said:

Fixed my first post, sorry it was the wrong way around.

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ratty said:

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BED now

Thanks, I was thinking the same. Why do they still offer tubed tyres on the new vehicles? Are there any advantages over tubeless? Also, does anyone have experience with XZL's in the snow and colder temperatures and know why some websites list them as summer tyres?

I am staying away from tubed tyres if I can. One of my 110s had tubes inside 235/85 R16 Insa Turbo Sahara mud terrains, and with a usage of 90% road 10% off road, I got a total of 4 punctures in the space of three months, and had to have 2 tubes replaced as a result. The tyre garage that was doing it all for me explained that the cause was probably heat; the friction between the tyres and the tubes can cause heat to build up, which weakens the rubber in the tube and causes it to fail.

Not sure if I'm the only one to have had this problem, but from now on I'll be sticking to tubeless. Never seem to have any problems with it.

I just got my mate to fit 4 XZL's to my defender and i asked to put tubes put in them. He told me that tubed tyres have recently been made illegal for on road vehicles. I did not doubt him because he was a mate and he knew what he was talking about. Stil not sure if it is true or not though?
I am sure if you took them to a small garage and told them that you use it mostly off road though they would still put tubes in them for you.

Tubless always If you are worried carry a couple of tubes that you can fit in an emergency like in the middle of the desert only after a tubless repair has failed and the spare is wrecked. Only reason I like tubless tyres for competition you can lower them to 9psi without too much of a problem with them coming off the rim. no good for travelling tho.