Hi there, put a post on here a while back about my winch, having tried all of the ideas i thought i would give it one final shot. I have power reaching the remote socket and the winch, however nothing happens when i use the remote, no winding in or out. All of the cables are connected ok etc etc. I have tried shorting the cables out, nothing, i have tried giving it a bit of a clunk incase the armature is stuck, nothing still. All if the solenoid connections seem ok but do not click, therefore i assume they are not sending power directly to the winch? Should i try connecting the winch directly to the battery? thanks ali
Winch....DEAD??
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jamescronin
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What you need to work out is if it is the solenoid that has gone or something in the trigering mechanism.
Obviously the solenoid handles a large amount of current so singley bypassing it will lead to a large spark etc.
The best thing to do would be to apply power directly to the coil side of the solenoid and see if you can triger it to close. If it does then obviously the solonoid is working and you have a control problem.
If it does not close then you have a dead solonoid - replace it.
When testing the solenoid you dont have to have the output connected to it (i.e. the winch) if it is too close to the winch mechanism to work on safely.
If the solenoid is working (which is sounds like it is not) then you could try using a large pair of jump leads to connect the winch to the power. If this is working then you have a control issue. You have two options - either trace the circuit back (I doubt it is a very complex circuit.) - if its dead you could think about making a new one to control the solenoid.
Obviously the solenoid handles a large amount of current so singley bypassing it will lead to a large spark etc.
The best thing to do would be to apply power directly to the coil side of the solenoid and see if you can triger it to close. If it does then obviously the solonoid is working and you have a control problem.
If it does not close then you have a dead solonoid - replace it.
When testing the solenoid you dont have to have the output connected to it (i.e. the winch) if it is too close to the winch mechanism to work on safely.
If the solenoid is working (which is sounds like it is not) then you could try using a large pair of jump leads to connect the winch to the power. If this is working then you have a control issue. You have two options - either trace the circuit back (I doubt it is a very complex circuit.) - if its dead you could think about making a new one to control the solenoid.
jai_landrover
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Alibream
Where abouts are you in the world? Seems you are making lots of work out of a 20 minute job. All you need is a jump lead and some wire and a pin out of the solonoids the rest will only take a few mins to test
Where abouts are you in the world? Seems you are making lots of work out of a 20 minute job. All you need is a jump lead and some wire and a pin out of the solonoids the rest will only take a few mins to test
jai_landrover
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hey man thats not a dig, at all, first you need to establish where and where you do not have power and make sure everything is earthed that needs to be.
From the results you can conclude weather everything is ok or not on the control side if its ok then its time to check weather the relays operate by putting another live through the relay coil if you can say you have definatly have power at the relay coil and a good earth and it does not operate then the relay is knackared. Most likley cause is the coil has burnt out leaving you with and open circuit.
If the relay operates as it should then the cause will be getting power to the relay. And you need to fault find from the controller live through the controller to the connector on the relay.
However if the relay has a bad earth even a corroded terminal can cause excessive resistance enough to cause low current flow which may not be enough to operate the relay this can lead to no operation also even with a good live at the opposite end of the coil this is why its very important that the earth is checked 100% that it is earthed correctly before you start.
From the results you can conclude weather everything is ok or not on the control side if its ok then its time to check weather the relays operate by putting another live through the relay coil if you can say you have definatly have power at the relay coil and a good earth and it does not operate then the relay is knackared. Most likley cause is the coil has burnt out leaving you with and open circuit.
If the relay operates as it should then the cause will be getting power to the relay. And you need to fault find from the controller live through the controller to the connector on the relay.
However if the relay has a bad earth even a corroded terminal can cause excessive resistance enough to cause low current flow which may not be enough to operate the relay this can lead to no operation also even with a good live at the opposite end of the coil this is why its very important that the earth is checked 100% that it is earthed correctly before you start.
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Run this test and if the winch works, buy an albright solonoid pack for £40. the controller is just a toggle switch and it easy wired to the albright solonoid or directly into the cab dash.
Warn Motor Testing Procedure
If you find yourself in a situation where your winch is clicking but it is not working, you may have a motor problem....or you may have a solenoid problem. The following procedure, from Warn, will help you determine the status of your winch motor.
1. Put the winch in freespool.
2. Disconnect the positive lead from the battery (leave the ground lead attached).
3. Label and disconnect the three cables that run from the control pack to the three posts on the motor.
4. Stamped next to the three posts on the motor will be "A", "F1" and "F2". Run a small jumper wire (5"-6" dead lead, 8 ga. will work just fine) from "A" to "F1" and put power from the battery (jumper cables work good) to "F2". The winch motor should run in one direction at this time.
5. Next, place the jumper wire from "A" to "F2" and put power from the battery to "F1". The winch motor should run in the opposite direction at this time.
If these steps are followed correctly and the motor runs in both directions, the motor is good.
Warn Motor Testing Procedure
If you find yourself in a situation where your winch is clicking but it is not working, you may have a motor problem....or you may have a solenoid problem. The following procedure, from Warn, will help you determine the status of your winch motor.
1. Put the winch in freespool.
2. Disconnect the positive lead from the battery (leave the ground lead attached).
3. Label and disconnect the three cables that run from the control pack to the three posts on the motor.
4. Stamped next to the three posts on the motor will be "A", "F1" and "F2". Run a small jumper wire (5"-6" dead lead, 8 ga. will work just fine) from "A" to "F1" and put power from the battery (jumper cables work good) to "F2". The winch motor should run in one direction at this time.
5. Next, place the jumper wire from "A" to "F2" and put power from the battery to "F1". The winch motor should run in the opposite direction at this time.
If these steps are followed correctly and the motor runs in both directions, the motor is good.
