Whining from gearbox

Hi there,
I'm back on here. I've had some fantastic advice from you guys but I am having to put myself in your hands once again. I have had my Freelander(2006) td4 in the garage for the last week. They have fixed a seized wheel bearing, taken the propshaft off and my car is still making the same high pitched whine it was when I put it in. They think it maybe, "maybe" the transfer box. The ****ers still took £200 quid off me though. Labour apparently. They also told me helpfully, that they don't have a clue what is making the noise and actually told me to "webuyanycar" it. My car has done less than 41,000. Can anyone help?? If I knew what the problem was then I could deal with it but when my garage is saying it might cost me £300 to just to eliminate a few things then I'm sorry but I can't afford that. My garage has been in discussion with his mates and they seem pretty sure it's the transfer box. However they also say it could be a mad problem with a wheel that's causing the noise. Please, please help. I will happily take you out for a fantastic chinese meal and 2 nights in my local nudey bar as a reward. I should make it clear that I will not be dancing. Although if that's what you want and you like a 15 stone Scotsman then I will be there for you. Sweetie pie. lol

That garage sound like total numptys.

I know John. I have been putting the car into them for MOTs and basic stuff for the last 8 years. The bill is never more than £50. Over the last few weeks I have realised the bill is cheap cos they don't actually know how to deal with anything serious. My car has only done 40k. There is another 100k in it if I can sort this out. I could deal with it if I actually knew what was wrong with it. They have had it for a week and passed it onto a gearbox specialist and still said "we dont have a clue mate" pretty sure it's the transfer box. I actually think they just want me to go away. I would be very grateful for any kinda advice at all. Right now I am stuck between a f-ing rock and a f-ing hard place. Should I "we buy any car it"? I have had 8 years of problem free motoring with it though. As I say, less than 41k. It should have an other 100k in it. I am actually emotionally attached to it. It looks like a big foxes glacier fruit. It will kill me to get shot of it. It's 10 years old and I still see people at the petrol station admiring it. It is just a proper motor. I love the fact that I can drive up the East Kilbride road when everyone else is stuck. I have also pulled 25 cars a day out of slush during the winter. I am always so happy to say, yeah, you need to buy a landrover. I need to stop now. I am just making myself sad

You might get more help (or find something) in the freelander sub forum.
Does the whine get louder with speed?
When you say they took the prop off, is it now 2wd.

If it was me, I'd drain the oil from the gear and transfer box and rear diff. To check there was enough oil init and there's no unexpected bits.

(The 2006 model doesn't have the vcu, does it?)

Sorry for taking so long to be back on SpringDon. I have been laid up with some kinda virus for a month. I am convinced it's Ebola. The whine doesn't start until I get til about 40 mph in 4th and 5th. They put the prop back on so it is still 4wd. Again mate, I'm sorry cos I would have no clue how to drain the oil from the bits u suggest. I also am not quite sure what the VCU is. However, much appreciated for your help and advice. All these nuggets of info will help me solve it eventually. Thanks again SpringDon

I suggest a considerable amount of reading up on the way the freelander transmission system works is in order. I seriously doubt you will get anywhere with a garage of the ilk you describe - unless having your wallet emptied is some sort of achievement

IMHO, the only way to know what has been done to your car, is to do it yourself. I'm sure folk on here will help you, might be worth putting a video up - a picture is worth a thousand words and all that.

Good luck.

Thanks chaps. At the moment I have no other option other than to run it into the ground. I love Landrovers but I have no technical knowledge whatsoever. Thanks so much Disco1BFG, I really do appreciate your input but as I say, short of becoming your apprentice then I am ****ing into the wind. I know my garage ripped me off and fixed nothing bit I don't know where to go from here. If anyone thought they could sort this for me then I would be totally happy to pay them, put them up in a nice Edwardian house, and get them drunk every evening until it was fixed. My mum would also suck them off too probs. She is 80 though so that is probs a negative thing. Depends on your taste!!! lol

Why do you think it's transmission?

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I'll add an edit otherwise it's a stoopid question... have they had it off the deck and running, surely the noise could be traced to a 'metal lumpy bit' (that demonstrates my knowledge of transmission) somewhere under the car? If it isn't present then could it be tyre whine?


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If this proves to be the case, I'll forego the 15 st lap dancing Scotsman and mother gobble treatment,

Cheers Dartmoor. They had it off the deck and also asked the gearbox/transmission "specialist" across the road and they were pretty sure that's what it was. To be honest I think they didn't want the hassle of isolating the problem and then watching me say "I'll just leave it" when they said it would be £700 to fix. The noise only happens when I get above 35mph in 4th or 5th gear. It also feels very under powered and is going through diesel like a tractor.

PS Are you saying my mum's not good enough for you??? You swine!!!

DROBERTS said:

I have no technical knowledge whatsoever

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Any job vacancies at your garage then?? sounds like you'd be the perfect addition to their workforce
In all seriousness, you can fix this, it's a CAR ! not the space shuttle !

Disco1BFG said:

might be worth putting a video up

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Can you do this - granted it might be a faff, but I reckon folk on here would help.

DROBERTS said:

PS Are you saying my mum's not good enough for you??? You swine!!!

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Yes

What state are the tyres in?

Dartmoor Navigator said:

What state are the tyres in?

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Good call - and not just for the tyres - it made me think that this issue is probably more likely to be age related, given 40K (ish) in ten years, rather than mechanical failure ... so all the rubber mounts on everything need a good checking with a pry bar... etc...

And, as said above, everything needs a good servicing, all oils in the bin, and start again from a known good position...

Listening stick required.

Al2O3 said:

Listening stick required.

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Absolutely, definitely,, nailed it 100%.

Simple tools can be the best tools.

Cheers all for your input. AL203 thanks for the compliment even though I am a simple tool. I don't actually know what a listening stick is. There is no point uploading a vid. The sound is too subtle to hear. I just had all my tyres and alloys checked and fixed, plenty of tread. I did need some seals round my rims though. Sound is still there.
PS Dartmoornavigator. My mum is well good enough for you. If she's good enough for me then she's good enough to pass round. WTF is wrong with me?? Sometimes I feel that I let myself down. lol

Disco1BFG said:

Good call - and not just for the tyres - it made me think that this issue is probably more likely to be age related, given 40K (ish) in ten years, rather than mechanical failure ... so all the rubber mounts on everything need a good checking with a pry bar... etc...

And, as said above, everything needs a good servicing, all oils in the bin, and start again from a known good position...

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I know you are right Disco1BFG but at the moment my budget is tighter than a gnats chuff. I need a ****ing service rather than the Freelander. I am making even worse noises on start up and at speed than she is. I doubt if she will give out before I do. lol. Cheers for your help.

DROBERTS said:

Cheers all for your input. AL203 thanks for the compliment even though I am a simple tool. I don't actually know what a listening stick is. There is no point uploading a vid. The sound is too subtle to hear.

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A listening stick is just that, a stick for listening! Usually a hard wood dowel about 1cm diameter. (I'm guessing a bit here) You press it against the side of your skull, just in front of your ear. The other end you press on where you suspect a noise is coming from. You can track down the source of a noise. They are particularly effective for subtle noises like yours. I presume you've tried to freewheel out of gear to compare the noise with gearbox engaged, in order to eliminate a road wheel bearing etc. You might need to get it up on a four post to listen to the transfer box in action with the stick.

Or sometimes finding a bit of bone behind your ear can work well. I used to have one of those old fashioned wooden screwdrivers with a long metal shank and a round wooden handle. If you rest your skull against the wooden handle and the other end against the component that might be making a noise or vibrating you can hear the offending sound very well.