Which Land Rover Magazine???

I bought this months LROI thought it was OK actually...
4+ quid for what amounts to throne material does seem a bit steep IMHO!

Lisbeth said:

I like them all really, hubby buys them for me!:lol:

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:lol: nice... Don't think my wife would ....... bless her!

MGBGTV8 said:

I bought this months LROI thought it was OK actually...
4+ quid for what amounts to throne material does seem a bit steep IMHO!

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Yeah its closer to 3 quid if you subscribe, but I understand your point, that's why this is so helpful.... Are any of them worth while!?!

I used to subscribe to lre till it went tits up now I just walk into smiths and browse them on the shelves !

I went through my "magazine phase" about 25 yrs ago when I was big into windsurfing. After a few yrs I had a pile of mags over 4 ft high, no-one wanted them. If you want reading material you're better off buying decent books you'll keep, or DVDs etc. otherwise it's 30 or 40 quid a year for a big pile of adverts.

My wife did pick me up an old LRclassic mag from the dentists which was interesting thrown reading, but I wouldn't pay for it, the useful info it contained is easily available on the web for nowt.

Pumpy said:

I went through my "magazine phase" about 25 yrs ago when I was big into windsurfing. After a few yrs I had a pile of mags over 4 ft high, no-one wanted them. If you want reading material you're better off buying decent books you'll keep, or DVDs etc. otherwise it's 30 or 40 quid a year for a big pile of adverts.

My wife did pick me up an old LRclassic mag from the dentists which was interesting thrown reading, but I wouldn't pay for it, the useful info it contained is easily available on the web for nowt.

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Yeah I read a lot but apart from my book series collections I get stuff on kindle.... Used to keep my mags, only do now if there is something useful with pics. My bi monthly mag is great and I keep all those but my car mag I give away to others when I've finished with it... It usually goes to a guy at work, who gives it to his dad, who gives it to the doctors and is probably nicked from there, so I feel it gets good use. Somewhere there is a docs with EVO magazine special editon covers

As already said the best magazine was Land Rover Enthusiast,sadly no more.
Big point for me is lack of stories about Disco 1's and 2's. I think there are more Disco's out there than series and defenders. Just count how many Discos you see every day. Still, I get LRO and LRM on subscription every month. Must have a look for LR international.
Thats my tuppence worth folks,


Jim A
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2002 Disco 2 auto
1996 300Tdi auto(gone)

I haven't see another D1 for ages, one or two 2s and loads of 3s and a few 4s are around now and when I go to Chislehurst and Bromley in Kent all I see RR and RRS... nine the other Sunday.

Sometimes I think I'm driving the oldest car on the road with it's R reg u don't see many, if any, prefix or suffix registrations in my part of the world.

Maybe we Scots hate to part with anything.
Out today for about 3 hours,saw 4 Disco 2's and 2 disco 1,s.
West central Scotland area. I go up north a lot and always see Disco 1's and 2's.
Although the Freelander 2 is everywhere in Scotland, Dozens of them.

Jim A
2002 Disco 2 auto
1996 300Tdi auto(gone)

discool said:

I haven't see another D1 for ages, one or two 2s and loads of 3s and a few 4s are around now and when I go to Chislehurst and Bromley in Kent all I see RR and RRS... nine the other Sunday.

Sometimes I think I'm driving the oldest car on the road with it's R reg u don't see many, if any, prefix or suffix registrations in my part of the world.

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Cars in general seem to be around for a shorter length of time these days. When I was a kid seeing new cars was quite a big event now it seems everything is new. Having said that the new style plates do tend to blend 51 is so close to 61 you dont see them as 10 years apart...

700Quid said:

Please also chime in if you wouldn't buy any of the above! Reasons why etc... Or if you read something else you think is better... LAND ROVER MAGS THAT IS!!!! .... Yes I saw your brain working....

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I bought LRM and LRO for about a year each, the articles just get rewritten with a slightly different slant on it and I got fed up reading them.

Workshop pages are only useful if you need to do that particular job and to be honest I've done just about every job including some of the most involved electrical repairs etc. so I don't think there is anything to learn from them any more, also there is a lot of Hippo chat when things fall off them that I don't need to worry about. If there is something I need to know I will look on Rave and even then it's usually for the obscure jobs, or to see what order 50 pieces go back into a component are.

The articles are repetitive, once you have seen a series, a Defender a RR and a Disco rebuilt you have seen them all, there is also more stuff and usually more photos on this site, it's free and you can ask questions of the poster.

I would maybe get it again once things have moved on and there are more Disco 3's and things coming up as project cars, if they ever make it to that stage.

discomania said:

I bought LRM and LRO for about a year each, the articles just get rewritten with a slightly different slant on it and I got fed up reading them.

Workshop pages are only useful if you need to do that particular job and to be honest I've done just about every job including some of the most involved electrical repairs etc. so I don't think there is anything to learn from them any more, also there is a lot of Hippo chat when things fall off them that I don't need to worry about. If there is something I need to know I will look on Rave and even then it's usually for the obscure jobs, or to see what order 50 pieces go back into a component are.

The articles are repetitive, once you have seen a series, a Defender a RR and a Disco rebuilt you have seen them all, there is also more stuff and usually more photos on this site, it's free and you can ask questions of the poster.

I would maybe get it again once things have moved on and there are more Disco 3's and things coming up as project cars, if they ever make it to that stage.

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Thanks for this mate, interesting comment... I certainly agree in regards to technical info that you can almost anything on line. Before I started my basic rebuild I read some threads on here any questions I have had have pretty much been covered by this forum or Youtube. The only thing I would say is that sometimes (I'm not including LR mags in this as I've not read any yet) when mags do a certain job or demo they do do it step by step so for a first timer you get all the info. I have found online that sometimes steps are missed by people who assume a certain level of knowledge from the reader.... As for if disco 3's will make it... we shall see... The more complicated cars get the harder it is for DIY's...

janderson41 said:

As already said the best magazine was Land Rover Enthusiast,sadly no more.
Big point for me is lack of stories about Disco 1's and 2's. I think there are more Disco's out there than series and defenders. Just count how many Discos you see every day. Still, I get LRO and LRM on subscription every month. Must have a look for LR international.
Thats my tuppence worth folks,

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scotchgit said:

I used to subscribe to lre till it went tits up now I just walk into smiths and browse them on the shelves !

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Just out of interest what was it that made LRE Mag different?

700Quid said:

Just out of interest what was it that made LRE Mag different?

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LRE was about an enthusiasm for the marque, for me it covered just about everything to do with Land Rovers from the shiny show room motors to the old beat up Rangey that was getting bobtailed over the weekend, there was a lot less adds and it was massively factual, competition round ups and coverage was ok and it had a welcome to the club feel every issue I ever bought.

I actually cancelled my subscription to LRO in favor of taking it in my international news agents as I was sick of being an issue behind all the time.

LRO gives the best coverage for newer cars but suffers from "Defenders are cool" syndrome as do all the others, most of them just bang on about Defenders and what bolt on accessories you can buy for them, not a lot of good if you own something else is it?

There is a distinct lack of travelling and adventure stories in them all though, and they hardly cover anything modified or rebuilt unless it is Defender or series orientated, the publshers see it like this, Defenders are the cool must be seen in truck and series are for the older mid life crisis types who are rebelling against the euro box so they need to give them space too. I hate it that there is not one single car actively campaigning in competition for a magazine or that there is poor coverage of international events outside the UK and a lot of the events don't get the coverage deserved for the efforts the drivers go to to compete, more coverage might mean more entries in the sport to keep it going, I saw a lot of comps pulled for lack of suitable numbers of entries.

Sorry if long winded, read all of them through different stages.

LRO everytime

Just this month subbed to LRO as it were 'on offer' for £28 for a year - granted that gets you just the mag sent through and no 'free' gift.

The offered free gift was a torque wrench - but at £50 for the sub, you is paying for the wrench anyhows - yet how many peeps would get 'caught' by that as to get the £28 rate you had to scroll down the page a bit.

I've had a years worth of LRM and find them fairly interesting but a bit repetitive now about rebuilding yet another Disco/Defender/Series project. That said, at least they have started to write up about fixing Freelanders too.

Which brings me to a point (before you all start ranting), Yes FL's have bad points and the 1.8 petrol is hounded for HGF issues before they uprated the oil rail and re-sited the thermostat. But let's take a step back a minute. I've just said that LR mags are full of features on fixing the 'serious' LR marques. This includes rebuilding 200TDi engine of the same age as the common HGF petrol FL's. I had a 300TDi that suffered HGF too, it's not uncommon apparently..... So deride a 1.8 HGF but rebuild a TDi oil burner, somewhat one sided innit.

So my point is, yes ALL LR's have issues and I think the mag's should start to reflect that in their articles in what they cover. Or maybe they can only write up the mechanical side of repairs cos ECU's and software are a black art? So if you suffer rust or unbolt you will always have something to read

Oh yeah, I popped in on this part of the forum to see what issues there are in buying a Disco 3

As said above, repetitive 'ooh it's winter, here's how to keep warm ..', boring and repetitive 'on the X variant, 48 dome head rivets are used, whereas on the Y variant there are 44 Countersunk head rivets', full of adverts. I know adverts recoup a lot of the revenue of procudtion but FFS, when more than half the mag is advert and not editorial then it's way too much.

I prefer to see readers modifications and extras, not necessarily always for racing or competition, but for example the little mods that make a vehicle slightly more reliable for green-laning, like removing Disco plastic side sills that trap water and rot the sills prematurely. How people fit things in, like fridges, water carriers etc, where to take a fused 12v supply from, where to take a 12v supply that works from the ignition, that sort of thing.

For me though, forums and t'interweb are so immediate that they trump any magazine .. what I mean is, I can ask, 'where do I get a good 12v fused connection' and I'll get 38 replies within a couple of days. OK, 23 will be ****-takes, but a few will discuss the actual issue, and point a couple of ways to do it.
(Fixating on this a bit 'cos I just learnt a new one for me this week)

.. and the chat ..

Way better than a letters section, with no feedback or discussion.

Paul D said:

As said above, repetitive 'ooh it's winter, here's how to keep warm ..', boring and repetitive 'on the X variant, 48 dome head rivets are used, whereas on the Y variant there are 44 Countersunk head rivets', full of adverts. I know adverts recoup a lot of the revenue of procudtion but FFS, when more than half the mag is advert and not editorial then it's way too much.

I prefer to see readers modifications and extras, not necessarily always for racing or competition, but for example the little mods that make a vehicle slightly more reliable for green-laning, like removing Disco plastic side sills that trap water and rot the sills prematurely. How people fit things in, like fridges, water carriers etc, where to take a fused 12v supply from, where to take a 12v supply that works from the ignition, that sort of thing.

For me though, forums and t'interweb are so immediate that they trump any magazine .. what I mean is, I can ask, 'where do I get a good 12v fused connection' and I'll get 38 replies within a couple of days. OK, 23 will be ****-takes, but a few will discuss the actual issue, and point a couple of ways to do it.
(Fixating on this a bit 'cos I just learnt a new one for me this week)

.. and the chat ..

Way better than a letters section, with no feedback or discussion.

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Totally understand your point about forums being so awesome I'm loosing count of the amount of times I have solved stuff though finding the answer on the line..... Having said that it is sometimes nice just to sit down and read a mag, some of the articles are really interesting. LRE seemed to hit the spot for a few but clearly didn't have a big enough fan base to stay afloat.... Maybe paper magazines will start to die now we have so much tech to hand....

When I bought my RRC there wasn't mags on Land Rovers and much the same with my previous cars, I often wonder how we survived without an owners handbook, a Haynes manual and the main dealer for that vehicle, but then our basic skills which we had helped .

What I've seen with the various Forums is that are dying slowly with actual "good" information, with the usual "I don't know but I think" in the first paragraph, I say if you don't know don't reply.