Which jack (again!) and where are my jacking points?

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Hello,

There are several threads on this topic already, so apologies for starting another one. My reason for starting a new one, however, is that none of the others that I've found give me a definitive answer for my situation!

Anyway, I've attached a pic of my current vehicle. As you can see, I have a close-fit winch bumper on the front. I also have a tube bumper on the rear. Are either of these any good for jacking with a high-lift, for example?

I will be doing some basic off-roading, but I'll probably never need a high-lift off-road because I will always be with lots of other people and will never be in anything deeper than a foot or two because I don't want to flood my interior!

Anyway... two questions - where are the jacking points on my vehicle, and what type of jack should I buy? Cheap as possible, please, but long-lasting too if possible!

Oh, and the Landy's been lifted by 2 inches if that makes a difference.

Thanks in advance!
 

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See the holes next to the shackles (on front bumper), they be your hi-lift jacking points .... can't see your rear bumper though :doh:
 
OK, please now see attached pic of rear bumper. It's had a metal plate put across the top of it because there was originally a 4-6 inch gap between the bumper and the Land Rover itself, which the previous owner's dog kept getting stuck in!

As for the holes in the front bumper, I hadn't even spotted those!

And as for the adaptor for the high-lift jack, it's £33.50 in total. I've seen entire high-lift jacks for around the same though...

HIGH LIFT 3 TON 48" FARM JACK BEST BUY NEW AND BOXED on eBay (end time 10-Sep-10 08:44:10 BST)

48" 3½ TONE FARMER FARM HIGH LIFT LAND ROVER 4x4 JACK on eBay (end time 07-Sep-10 18:23:43 BST)

Q1. Is that to be expected?

Q2. are either of the jacks above suitable for my vehicle?

Q3. are there any cheaper options? Spending £60 is obviously worthwhile for the situation it would get me out of, but if there's a sensible cheaper option, it may be a better option for me!

Thanks again! :D
 

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point taken - the £30 ones on eBay are brand new though and supposedly capable of 3 tonnes or so. I guess, like anything, though, there are different manufacturers, different qualities etc... right?

Maybe I should spend £60 on a high-lift jack (from Jacking ) and a further £20 on an adaptor (from Jack Adapter for Hi-Lift Jack )

That comes to somewhere between £80 and £100 for a jack that will (hopefully) never be used. You have a valid point though - if the jack collapses while the wheel is off, it'll be a disaster.

As for not using a high-lift jack in the bumper holes, what would the standard Land Rover jack hook onto?

And finally, anyone know where to lift at the back of my Landy?
 
there not hilifts they're high lifts jacks and both are cheap chinese scrappers. get an hilift or a jackall. and if you value you life/hands/face. make sure you know how to use it and get the adaptor to go with it.
 
redhand said:
there not hilifts they're high lifts jacks and both are cheap chinese scrappers. get an hilift or a jackall. and if you value you life/hands/face. make sure you know how to use it and get the adaptor to go with it.
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aye i agree with red the cheap ones are not more than the weight in scrap i personally have a jack-all 48" i only use it as a last resort as even though i know how to use it safely and have been using it for years i don't trust it unless its an emergency or in a recovery situation i default to a trolley jack
 
fishsponge said:
point taken - the £30 ones on eBay are brand new though and supposedly capable of 3 tonnes or so. I guess, like anything, though, there are different manufacturers, different qualities etc... right?
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They are more than likely cheap imported tat from china etc. you takes your chances....

fishsponge said:
Maybe I should spend £60 on a high-lift jack (from Jacking ) and a further £20 on an adaptor (from Jack Adapter for Hi-Lift Jack )

That comes to somewhere between £80 and £100 for a jack that will (hopefully) never be used. You have a valid point though - if the jack collapses while the wheel is off, it'll be a disaster.
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That was just an example, I'm sure you'll find a cheaper supplier as there are lot's of off-roading supplier's out there ... ebay is not always good for bargain's.

fishsponge said:
As for not using a high-lift jack in the bumper holes, what would the standard Land Rover jack hook onto?
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Standard jack I'm presuming you mean the bottle jack in the engine bay? Jacking points for that are under the diff's and under the axle's.

fishsponge said:
And finally, anyone know where to lift at the back of my Landy?
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As for the rear bumper, how is it attached to the chassis? if it's got decent mounts and can take the weight of the car you could get hi-lift jacking tubes welded onto it....
 
redhand said:
And before you post stupid questions again do you think you might possibly try to DO A SEARCH FFS!!
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I hadn't spotted this line earlier (thought it was part of your sig!). My reply to that is from the first line of my first post...

fishsponge said:
My reason for starting a new one, however, is that none of the others that I've found give me a definitive answer for my situation!
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Hope that's sufficient :D

Anyway... this seems to be turning into something of a minefield!

STEP ONE

I can't afford both a trolley jack and a high-lift jack, so whatever I buy needs to be usable at home and on the side of the road, and down a greenlane or off-road.

Is a high-lift jack therefore what I need to buy?

If so...

STEP TWO

Assuming it is, there are good manufacturers and bad ones. I understand that the good ones are "Hi-Lift" and "Jackall", right?

If so, it's decided - I should buy a high-lift jack from either "Hi-Lift" or "Jackall" and an adaptor so it goes in the tubes in my front bumper.

What about the rear though? Is my photo from above good enough to tell whether it's suitable for jacking or not? There are no holes in it, so I would assume not, but it is a tube (despite the plate on top).

Am i along the right lines here?

Finally...

Dewin said:
Standard jack I'm presuming you mean the bottle jack in the engine bay? Jacking points for that are under the diff's and under the axle's.
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There's already a jack in my engine bay? Where should I look for that, because I've not seen one...
 
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A hi-lift is not the jack you wanna be using for changing a wheel at the side of the road. it's strictly for emergency offroad use for lifting or winching a vehicle out of a sticky situation.
 
G-man said:
wtf is going on with your rear bumper it look fookin odd!!!
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it's a tube bumper which sits about 6 inches away from the bodywork, which has had a metal plate welded to the top of it because the previous owner's dog kept getting it's legs stuck in the gap!

Dewin said:
If it's still there, it'll be in front of the air filter housing, jack handles are normally under mid row seats.....
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ah... the only thing under the mid row seats is supposedly the roof rack. It's in a long black bag and I've not looked inside it yet. Maybe the handle will be in the bag with them!

As for the jack in the engine bay, in front of what is now a K&N cone-shaped air filter is a battery. There is also a battery on the left-hand side of the engine bay too. Presumably two batteries isn't standard, so which side would the original one have been on? and would the bottle jack have been stored where my second battery is now?

Anyway... so a high-lift jack is not for changing wheels at home and it's not for changing wheels at the side of the road. What, therefore is suitable for these situations? Should I pick up a standard Land Rover bottle jack?
 
Bottle or trolley jack will be fine fur normal use. Only prob wi' a Hi-lift (or standard defefender jack or any other type of body lift jack) is that it lifts the body and takes fur ages to lift an axle!!
 
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