What have you done to your Freelander today

Alibro said:

Recharged it.

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What I didn't mention is it takes around 17 hours at 2.2kW to charge off a granny charger.
I have bought a used wall charger off ebay which in theory can deliver 7kW but my Mitsibishi Outlander OBC (on board charger) can only handle 3.5kW so it will still take over 10 hours to charge from empty.
For most of the time this will not be an issue but it is something I need to address and might even replace the OBC with one that can handle 7kW. Maybe it was silly to use the Mitsibishi on in the first place but it was cheap and simple so at the time suited me well.

Eventually I hope to get dc fast charging working up to around 50kW but have many things to sort before even thinking about it.

Alibro said:

What I didn't mention is it takes around 17 hours at 2.2kW to charge off a granny charger.
I have bought a used wall charger off ebay which in theory can deliver 7kW but my Mitsibishi Outlander OBC (on board charger) can only handle 3.5kW so it will still take over 10 hours to charge from empty.
For most of the time this will not be an issue but it is something I need to address and might even replace the OBC with one that can handle 7kW. Maybe it was silly to use the Mitsibishi on in the first place but it was cheap and simple so at the time suited me well.

Eventually I hope to get dc fast charging working up to around 50kW but have many things to sort before even thinking about it.

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That’s not too bad, if generally it’s not empty and if left overnight. Especially given the project and the fact that you have designed and built the bloody thing!
My iX3 charges at 7kw on my home charger but a) it’s not normally empty to start with, and b) I plug it in and forget it for the night, whether it’s ready by 2am or 6am becomes irrelevant in normal life.

DC is definitely the way to go if you intend on going a fair distance from home, but if not, why bother?!?

Following on from yesterday - managed to catch a break in the weather this afternoon so replaced the pollen filter and air filter And whilst the top was off for the air filter, went the extra mile and removed and cleaned the crankcase filter also (mod).

Just the IRD and diff oils, plus a wheel rotation left for the pre-winter service.

Freddie17 said:

That’s not too bad, if generally it’s not empty and if left overnight. Especially given the project and the fact that you have designed and built the bloody thing!
My iX3 charges at 7kw on my home charger but a) it’s not normally empty to start with, and b) I plug it in and forget it for the night, whether it’s ready by 2am or 6am becomes irrelevant in normal life.

DC is definitely the way to go if you intend on going a fair distance from home, but if not, why bother?!?

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What a lovely post. It's good to know another LR owner has an EV, and has a balanced point of view as a result.

There's an EV thread on anything goes forum, which has some completely bizarre posts about electric vehicles.

Freddie17 said:

That’s not too bad, if generally it’s not empty and if left overnight. Especially given the project and the fact that you have designed and built the bloody thing!
My iX3 charges at 7kw on my home charger but a) it’s not normally empty to start with, and b) I plug it in and forget it for the night, whether it’s ready by 2am or 6am becomes irrelevant in normal life.

DC is definitely the way to go if you intend on going a fair distance from home, but if not, why bother?!?

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Thanks mate, I appreciate your support.
Actually without the support of the guys here I probably would have given up on it ages ago.

As for charging I'll see how I get on with 3.5kW ac for a while but will probably try to figure out a way to get 7kW. Whatever way I go making the charging stop automatically is a priority. At the moment I have to set a timer to remind me to stop it or the battery would be over charged which could be dangerous.
I was hoping to make a road trip to Cornwall in it some time so DC charging would be handy.

I did a round trip of 20 miles this evening so have just gone over the 100 miles driven on leccy only.

Alibro said:

Thanks mate, I appreciate your support.
Actually without the support of the guys here I probably would have given up on it ages ago.

As for charging I'll see how I get on with 3.5kW ac for a while but will probably try to figure out a way to get 7kW. Whatever way I go making the charging stop automatically is a priority. At the moment I have to set a timer to remind me to stop it or the battery would be over charged which could be dangerous.
I was hoping to make a road trip to Cornwall in it some time so DC charging would be handy.

I did a round trip of 20 miles this evening so have just gone over the 100 miles driven on leccy only.

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It would be handy if you can charge it using an energy monitor, so you can give us a rough estimate on its efficiency over time.

Nodge68 said:

What a lovely post. It's good to know another LR owner has an EV, and has a balanced point of view as a result.

There's an EV thread on anything goes forum, which has some completely bizarre posts about electric vehicles.

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Just had a look - Blimey they get riled up!

Nodge68 said:

It would be handy if you can charge it using an energy monitor, so you can give us a rough estimate on its efficiency over time.

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That’s a good point - see how it is performing.
As a ‘benchmark’ for you, my EV (which is not the most efficient of them but it is a larger suv type) will generally average around 3 miles per kilowatt. If I drive sensible and not at motorway speeds, then it will run around 3.4 miles per kilowatt.
Of course, that’s a very new vehicle using new technology - if you get anywhere near this it would indeed be a result.

Freddie17 said:

Just had a look - Blimey they get riled up!

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They do indeed, and for very few reasons of any validity to be honest. It seems cost of an EV is a really contentious point, but they only look at the initial purchase price, not the lifetime costs of the technology. Those same individuals will happily spend hundreds per month on maintenance and fuel for their old ICE vehicles, and refuse to consider that going EV is a cheaper form of motoring in the long run. Charging is another cause for concern to many on there, but as most EV owners charge at home, the issue is mostly moot anyway.
It's fear of the unknown I think. I'm sure that if they were to live with an EV for a while, they'd change their minds about them. I know loads of people lucky enough to have EVs, and none of them would go back to ICE for their daily transport.

We were sceptical at first, but I have to say I’m certainly converted.
Range was my worry - we are in Kent and wife’s extended family are in Bristol, and I travel a bit for work. But it does work, and it does actually make me break the journey up a bit. Yes, you have to plan a little ahead sometimes.

I made the jump primarily because it is a company car, and I literally save hundreds per month, whilst driving a very nice car indeed. It was a no-brainer. We also both use it extensively privately. But, since then, we are now looking at another on personal lease for my wife.

Of course, we’ll keep the Freelander, but that was bought primarily for a bit of fun - although we’ll happily use it on long runs every now and then.

… and although I pay to charge it, by allowing it to smart charge via my energy provider app, I pay 7p / kilowatt charging.
So my ‘fuel’ works out to just over 2p/mile. An ICE at 50 mpg is around 14p/mile.

I won’t look at what my Freelander is!

Nodge68 said:

It would be handy if you can charge it using an energy monitor, so you can give us a rough estimate on its efficiency over time.

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Freddie17 said:

That’s a good point - see how it is performing.
As a ‘benchmark’ for you, my EV (which is not the most efficient of them but it is a larger suv type) will generally average around 3 miles per kilowatt. If I drive sensible and not at motorway speeds, then it will run around 3.4 miles per kilowatt.
Of course, that’s a very new vehicle using new technology - if you get anywhere near this it would indeed be a result.

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At the moment I am using an energy monitor so I can see what the current draw is but because I'm still very much in the testing phase making short journeys and short charging times it is hard to build up a picture of efficiency. If I was to guess I'd say somewhere between 2.5 miles per kWh and 3.

Alibro said:

At the moment I am using an energy monitor so I can see what the current draw is but because I'm still very much in the testing phase making short journeys and short charging times it is hard to build up a picture of efficiency. If I was to guess I'd say somewhere between 2.5 miles per kWh and 3.

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That’s good! The average efficiency is always lower for the first few miles, so if you’re only doing a couple of miles a pop, then I’d say that number is as good as most ‘larger’ EVs.

Changed the in-line thermostat again! Must have just been unlucky
but I expected more from a top end supplier like gates I honestly don’t think it’s ever worked properly But new one fitted and it’s up to temp so warm feet after walking the stupid dogs so hopefully no more hassle with that

Had a momentous occasion the other day!

Wizard2003 said:

Had a momentous occasion the other day!

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I had a 123456 year before last, but was on the motorway so couldn't snap a picture of it.

Mowed around it.



Well, mowed around the parts car.

GrumpyGel said:

Mowed around it.

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Well, mowed around the parts car.

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Did you find anything else?

Dar ran Dar ran said:

Did you find anything else?

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lol, as it happens.... the only reason I could take the photo is because the trailer which is normally parked next to it (hence earthy patch) is on the drive laden with Ivy that I have removed from the garage roof. Behind where the trailer is normally parked there is a very old Apple tree that gives lovely fruit, but not in great quantities as it fights for space with other stuff.

Garage roof it pitched and the side we see (not against the fence) was covered in Ivy. So I was up there hacking it away. Looking over the other side of the roof though... the Apple tree has obviously given up growing in 'its own space' and has grown out horizontally across the garage roof about 3m x 3m, and it is full of fruit!

A apple a day

I thought Cumbria was wild but even the biggest weeds don’t take cars/garages
Hostage it sounds like trifids