What did you do with your Range Rover today

Grrrrrr · Nov 18, 2023

Bix said:
Sprayed the pump with leak detector. Think I know where the problem is. Seems to be QA and the head... maybe. For a big engine bay, it is so cramped in here.

It was designed for small saloons rather than the RR. Imagine it shoe-horned into an Omega or Bimmer.

Bix · Nov 18, 2023

Grrrrrr said:
It was designed for small saloons rather than the RR. Imagine it shoe-horned into an Omega or Bimmer.

I'd just kill myself. Struggled enough working around the RR engine bay.

brianp38dse · Nov 18, 2023

Grrrrrr said:
I had a drive in a friend's Jaguar F-pace SVR yesterday. Incredible piece of kit. Floor it and there's a low growl and you're forced back into your armchair as a mad-max whine builds from the front. It feels like you're doing 30 mph but the speedo whips round like a fat-man landing on the kitchen scales.

Yep that sums it exactly, that and the fuel gauge dropping, he has it up for sale really loves it but the consumption to work is killing him

Bix · Nov 18, 2023

Anyone know if this guy in the centee is supposed to look so chewed up? Looks like someone has gone to town with a screwdriver. Can't be right, can it?

kermit_rr · Nov 18, 2023

Bix said:
Anyone know if this guy in the centee is supposed to look so chewed up? Looks like someone has gone to town with a screwdriver. Can't be right, can it?
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I give up. What am i looking at?

Datatek · Nov 18, 2023

kermit_rr said:
I give up. What am i looking at?

P38 FIP I guess

Bix · Nov 18, 2023

kermit_rr said:
I give up. What am i looking at?

The QA from the FIP, this part looks damaged, but seems more tooling than wear and tear.

Scotiawhiskers · Nov 18, 2023

Bix said:
The QA from the FIP, this part looks damaged, but seems more tooling than wear and tear.

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If I came across something looking like that I would assume it's been got at. What fits onto or into it? If that is smooth then I'd say a good candidate for your leak has been found.

Datatek · Nov 18, 2023

Scotiawhiskers said:
If I came across something looking like that I would assume it's been got at. What fits onto or into it? If that is smooth then I'd say a good candidate for your leak has been found.

It's internal to the FIP so not a source of a leak. I can't think of a reason why it would have been "got at". More likely German engineering quality.

brianp38dse · Nov 18, 2023

Bix said:
The QA from the FIP, this part looks damaged, but seems more tooling than wear and tear.

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I found an image on line looks like its meant to be like that.

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RangeRoller dt · Nov 18, 2023

if that’s the level of accuracy required from factory wouldn’t think would hurt to smooth it out with a dremel, Betterer flow perhaps?

Bix · Nov 19, 2023

RangeRoller dt said:
if that’s the level of accuracy required from factory wouldn’t think would hurt to smooth it out with a dremel, Betterer flow perhaps?

Pretty sure all that comes through there is fuel returned from the spilloff pipes. The main fuel supply comes into the main body of the pump below the QA block. I just hope none of the "precise engineering" breaks free as it'd write off my pump.

Datatek · Nov 19, 2023

RangeRoller dt said:
if that’s the level of accuracy required from factory wouldn’t think would hurt to smooth it out with a dremel, Betterer flow perhaps?

Better left alone, apart from leaks the FIP was working before disassembly.

Grrrrrr · Nov 19, 2023

Datatek said:
Better left alone, apart from leaks the FIP was working before disassembly.

+1. If it ain't broke don't touch it. Is it supposed to look like that? Yes, so leave it alone!

Bix · Nov 19, 2023

Well I fixed the cut out at idle issue, but now have a rough idle, and more importantly, still seem to be leaking fuel. The sensor at the rear of the pump under the head. I assume that is wet, since it has an oring. They a likely failure point? Because the other option is the head is still leaking and I potentially have an even bigger issue on my hands.

Salisbury Nick · Nov 19, 2023

RangeRoller dt said:
Some fit a switch to an electric fan instead of viscous so they can knock it off to wade. Becm was my biggest worry but nothing ever came in through the doors, remember one guy here even fitted his becm above your head

I have a switch on the dash for precisely that purpose.

stuu · Nov 20, 2023

Well treated myself to a newer brian james trailer for my skid car so picked that up Saturday only 150miles away and my pal decided he wanted one but the one he found was in leeds, so dropped mine off and off we went non stop from Saturday morning

Grrrrrr · Nov 20, 2023

Bix said:
Well I fixed the cut out at idle issue, but now have a rough idle, and more importantly, still seem to be leaking fuel. The sensor at the rear of the pump under the head. I assume that is wet, since it has an oring. They a likely failure point? Because the other option is the head is still leaking and I potentially have an even bigger issue on my hands.
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Possibly. Normally it is the top one or the one below that or the oval ones each side where the spring pops out.

If it has done 150k miles on the original pump I'd be tempted to get a refurbed one off Diesel Jones in Manchester and have done with it.

Datatek · Nov 20, 2023

Not mine I'm pleased to say but just seen the owner of our local supermarket on the road in his RR Sport, looked like it was on stilts, suspension fault or is it possible to drive at speed at wade height?

Bix · Nov 20, 2023

Grrrrrr said:
Possibly. Normally it is the top one or the one below that or the oval ones each side where the spring pops out.

If it has done 150k miles on the original pump I'd be tempted to get a refurbed one off Diesel Jones in Manchester and have done with it.

Either I am on crack, or I can't find the P38 on their website. The pump is a recon unit from 2017ish. I kinda expected it to last longer than this.

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