Well I've set a new record for Landrover ownership...

On Thu, 09 Nov 2006 18:08:58 -0000, Austin Shackles
<[email protected]> wrote:

> On or around Thu, 9 Nov 2006 17:05:55 -0000, "Lee_D"
> <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>
>> ...
>> waranteed known good gearbox <kerching>
>
> and it is a fact that fixing it revolutionises it. When I did mine I'd
> not
> realised how bad it'd got. The recon box was better overall and the gear
> changes were like gearchanges should be, without clanks and clunks.

That's good to know - our 110 may get a bit of a seeing to this winter -
then again ...

--
William Tasso

Land Rover - 110 V8
Discovery - V8

On or around Thu, 09 Nov 2006 22:21:38 -0000, "William Tasso"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>On Thu, 09 Nov 2006 18:08:58 -0000, Austin Shackles
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On or around Thu, 9 Nov 2006 17:05:55 -0000, "Lee_D"
>> <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>>
>>> ...
>>> waranteed known good gearbox <kerching>
>>
>> and it is a fact that fixing it revolutionises it. When I did mine I'd
>> not
>> realised how bad it'd got. The recon box was better overall and the gear
>> changes were like gearchanges should be, without clanks and clunks.
>
>That's good to know - our 110 may get a bit of a seeing to this winter -
>then again ...

Trouble is the output shaft thing is not really susceptible to a cheap or
easy fix once it's worn. Before it's worn you can do something about it to
help stop it wearing.

I assume the cheapest fix is to rebuild the main box yourself and fit a new
T-box gear. However the easier option is a recon main box. The latter cost
me 600 notes plus more to fit it, but it was a much nicer box than the old
one when it was done. Only annoying thing about it was that I didn't get
much of the benefit as I then sold it not long after. Wonder if it's still
going? It went up to Scotland.



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therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls, it tolls for thee"
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"Lee_D" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Nige <[email protected]> uttered summat worrerz funny
> about:
>>> If it lost drive and made crunching noises it has probably ripped the
>>> centre out of the clutch.
>>>
>>> The gearbox output shaft failure is always silent....
>>>
>>> Hope it is clutch as it is much cheaper.
>>> --
>> The clutch was on the heavy side it has to be said, but worked fine!
>
> Left it with Landranger, the clutch is going to be changed whatever, If I
> lifted the clutch with it not in gear it was quiet as one would expect. If
> I dropped it in gear then it wasn't quiet when the clutch was lifted and
> sounded a bit like a milling machine. Changing gear changed the note/
> frequency of the said milling machine... my money is on the output shaft.
>
> On the bright side I'll have a known good clutch <kerching> and a 12 month
> waranteed known good gearbox <kerching> with a cross drilled transfer gear
> <kerching> ;-)
>
> I like having known good stuff as I'll be far less reluctant to use it to
> tow abroad now which means some off road opportunities in South of France
> and Spain.
>
> In fact Snowy may have just got a new name <kerching> ;-)
>
> Lee D
>

Hope all goes well matey & they don't cost the earth!

On Thu, 9 Nov 2006 17:05:55 -0000, "Lee_D"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Left it with Landranger,

first you get rid of the 101 and now you start sending the new
landrover to the garage to have all the work done.. youre getting a
bit posh

Tom Woods <[email protected]> uttered summat worrerz funny
about:
> On Thu, 9 Nov 2006 17:05:55 -0000, "Lee_D"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Left it with Landranger,
>
> first you get rid of the 101 and now you start sending the new
> landrover to the garage to have all the work done.. youre getting a
> bit posh

Nah, just trying to spend more time doing stuff other than lay on the
driveway. One of the reasons I decided to let Morph go was so I could finish
Percy. So far all I've done is fill the garage with the contents of Morph
now.... my path through the garage has turned in to stepping stones of clear
floor space. Besides if I'd have done it it wouldn't see the road again for
around four weeks given I've way too much other stuff on at the mo... all
comes at a price though.

Gearbox has gone, they also found the flywheel was badly cracked so they are
swapping that for a known good one.

It'll all come in the wrong side of a grand but I've had a new clutch,
pressure plate and thrust bearings while it's all out too. It'll also have
the cross drilled transfer gear too. Given time it'll get a 200 tdi lump but
for now that'll do.

Lee D

"Lee_D" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Tom Woods <[email protected]> uttered summat worrerz funny
> about:
>> On Thu, 9 Nov 2006 17:05:55 -0000, "Lee_D"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Left it with Landranger,
>>
>> first you get rid of the 101 and now you start sending the new
>> landrover to the garage to have all the work done.. youre getting a
>> bit posh
>
> Nah, just trying to spend more time doing stuff other than lay on the
> driveway. One of the reasons I decided to let Morph go was so I could
> finish Percy. So far all I've done is fill the garage with the contents of
> Morph now.... my path through the garage has turned in to stepping stones
> of clear floor space. Besides if I'd have done it it wouldn't see the road
> again for around four weeks given I've way too much other stuff on at the
> mo... all comes at a price though.
>
> Gearbox has gone, they also found the flywheel was badly cracked so they
> are swapping that for a known good one.
>
> It'll all come in the wrong side of a grand but I've had a new clutch,
> pressure plate and thrust bearings while it's all out too. It'll also have
> the cross drilled transfer gear too. Given time it'll get a 200 tdi lump
> but for now that'll do.
>
> Lee D
>
>
>

Ouch!!! At least it will be right.

Looks like Morph needs a ballast resistor, thats whats causing the popping,
farting & misfiring. A bit cheaper than you I'm afraid.

Nige

Nige <[email protected]> uttered summat worrerz funny
about:
>
> Ouch!!! At least it will be right.
>
> Looks like Morph needs a ballast resistor, thats whats causing the
> popping, farting & misfiring. A bit cheaper than you I'm afraid.
>
> Nige

See if you can get some instructions off someone with a luminition kit
fitted. If I recall correctly Morph also has a Luminition Coil. You need to
be sure they need a Ballast resisitor and vice versa. The kit was fitted
when I got him. It'll probably say on the coil if you can crane you kneck
far enough to see it.

If it was that he needed a ballast resistor I'd expect he'd been getting 12v
pure instead of 6v at the coil in which case the coil would have cooked and
he'd be dead (assuming a ballast dependant coil being used on 12volt) ...
least thats my though process anyway. Would be nice if it is something that
simple though.

Lee D

Lee_D wrote:
> Nige <[email protected]> uttered summat worrerz funny
> about:
>>
>> Ouch!!! At least it will be right.
>>
>> Looks like Morph needs a ballast resistor, thats whats causing the
>> popping, farting & misfiring. A bit cheaper than you I'm afraid.
>>
>> Nige
>
> See if you can get some instructions off someone with a luminition
> kit fitted. If I recall correctly Morph also has a Luminition Coil.
> You need to be sure they need a Ballast resisitor and vice versa.
> The kit was fitted when I got him. It'll probably say on the coil
> if you can crane you kneck far enough to see it.
>
> If it was that he needed a ballast resistor I'd expect he'd been
> getting 12v pure instead of 6v at the coil in which case the coil
> would have cooked and he'd be dead (assuming a ballast dependant
> coil being used on 12volt) ... least thats my though process anyway.
> Would be nice if it is something that simple though.
>
> Lee D

Fitted new ballast resistor, £25 later, job done & fine.

--
Ta!

Nige

Subaru WRX (54)
Land Rover 101 GS/Ambi (Morph)
Honda XL650 Transalp (2005)

On Fri, 10 Nov 2006 17:22:33 -0000, "Nige"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Fitted new ballast resistor, £25 later, job done & fine.

bloody hell, im sure the one i had off Richard was about £10!

Mine used to run fine without a ballast resistor and with 12v on the
coil all the time...

Austin Shackles wrote:

|| On or around Thu, 9 Nov 2006 19:19:52 -0000, "Richard Brookman"
|| <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
||
|||
||| Last time I used the RAC, the S2 had shot its waterpump about 300
||| miles from home. I phoned the RAC, told them what had happened,
||| and they took my word for it (I was quite surprised - no "we'll
||| send a patrol to make sure", no "do you know what a waterpump is,
||| Sir?"). Flat bed on scene within 30 minutes, and home before Di
||| was expecting me, due to the higher cruising speed of the flatbed.
|||
||
|| yeah, they shift, those things. Last time I was involved (someone
|| else's car) the bugger beat us back, mind, we did stop for a pint
|| and a meal on the way.
||
|| I sometimes wonder what the flatbed drivers use for stayawake juice.
|| I used, when I were young and foolish, to be able to drive all night
|| and half the day, but not now.

This guy was middle-aged and a big Landy fan as well - he told me he was on
the 4pm-4am shift. VERY aggressive driver, though, nastily so. I did't
much enjoy the trip.

--
Rich
==============================

2001 Disco II ES auto
1971 S2a 88" petrol
1991 Transit Camper

Take out the obvious to email me.

Nige <[email protected]> uttered summat worrerz funny
about:
> Fitted new ballast resistor, £25 later, job done & fine.

Good stuff! I'd never have linked the popping to a ballast resistor , guess
thats why I'm not a mechanic

Lee D

In message <[email protected]>
Tom Woods <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Fri, 10 Nov 2006 17:22:33 -0000, "Nige"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >Fitted new ballast resistor, £25 later, job done & fine.
>
> bloody hell, im sure the one i had off Richard was about £10!
>
> Mine used to run fine without a ballast resistor and with 12v on the
> coil all the time...

£7.05 inc VAT And I'm not saying anything about Lee's bill....


Richard
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In message <[email protected]>
"Lee_D" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Nige <[email protected]> uttered summat worrerz funny
> about:
> > Fitted new ballast resistor, £25 later, job done & fine.
>
> Good stuff! I'd never have linked the popping to a ballast resistor , guess
> thats why I'm not a mechanic
>
> Lee D
>
>

It's a favourite amongst the Comp. Safari boys - they always
seem to foget the 6V electrics. Happily......

Richard

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beamendsltd wrote:
> In message <[email protected]>
> Tom Woods <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 10 Nov 2006 17:22:33 -0000, "Nige"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Fitted new ballast resistor, £25 later, job done & fine.
>>
>> bloody hell, im sure the one i had off Richard was about £10!
>>
>> Mine used to run fine without a ballast resistor and with 12v on the
>> coil all the time...
>
> £7.05 inc VAT And I'm not saying anything about Lee's bill....
>
>
> Richard

Yeah, but there was labour to find & fit it, i took it in for a tune up you see!!

--
Ta!

Nige

Subaru WRX (54)
Land Rover 101 GS/Ambi (Morph)
Honda XL650 Transalp (2005)

On or around Fri, 10 Nov 2006 19:47:55 -0000, "Richard Brookman"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>Austin Shackles wrote:
>
>|| On or around Thu, 9 Nov 2006 19:19:52 -0000, "Richard Brookman"
>|| <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>||
>|||
>||| Last time I used the RAC, the S2 had shot its waterpump about 300
>||| miles from home. I phoned the RAC, told them what had happened,
>||| and they took my word for it (I was quite surprised - no "we'll
>||| send a patrol to make sure", no "do you know what a waterpump is,
>||| Sir?"). Flat bed on scene within 30 minutes, and home before Di
>||| was expecting me, due to the higher cruising speed of the flatbed.
>|||
>||
>|| yeah, they shift, those things. Last time I was involved (someone
>|| else's car) the bugger beat us back, mind, we did stop for a pint
>|| and a meal on the way.
>||
>|| I sometimes wonder what the flatbed drivers use for stayawake juice.
>|| I used, when I were young and foolish, to be able to drive all night
>|| and half the day, but not now.
>
>This guy was middle-aged and a big Landy fan as well - he told me he was on
>the 4pm-4am shift. VERY aggressive driver, though, nastily so. I did't
>much enjoy the trip.

I can imagine that coming onshift just in time for evening rush-hour could
make one like that.
--
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"For millions of years, mankind lived just like the animals. Then
something happened which unleashed the power of our imagination -
we learned to talk." Pink Floyd (1994)

Austin Shackles wrote:

||||| I sometimes wonder what the flatbed drivers use for stayawake
||||| juice. I used, when I were young and foolish, to be able to drive
||||| all night and half the day, but not now.
|||
||| This guy was middle-aged and a big Landy fan as well - he told me
||| he was on the 4pm-4am shift. VERY aggressive driver, though,
||| nastily so. I did't much enjoy the trip.
||
|| I can imagine that coming onshift just in time for evening rush-hour
|| could make one like that.

Dunno - he seemed laid back enough, but took a perverse delight in
tailgating cars that were "in his way" (and I mean twelve inches or less
from the back bumper) and flashing his lights until they gave him what he
wanted. He also drove straight at the driver's door of a car that wanted to
get on the motorway (slow queue) until the lady backed off in terror. Her
face and mine were probably less than four feet from each other. Chat-wise,
he was good company for a few hours. Driving-wise, he was a cnut.

--
Rich
==============================

2001 Disco II ES auto
1971 S2a 88" petrol
1991 Transit Camper

Take out the obvious to email me.

On 2006-11-11, Richard Brookman <[email protected]> wrote:

> Dunno - he seemed laid back enough, but took a perverse delight in
> tailgating cars that were "in his way" (and I mean twelve inches or less
> from the back bumper) and flashing his lights until they gave him what he
> wanted.

I had some twerp do that some time ago to me in a big artic, if it
happens to you, wait until a steep hill comes up then while you're on
it, slow right down and if possible stop, they'll still be on it 10
mins later building back up to 5MPH

--
Blast off and strike the evil Bydo empire!

Ian Rawlings wrote:

|| On 2006-11-11, Richard Brookman
|| <[email protected]> wrote:
||
||| Dunno - he seemed laid back enough, but took a perverse delight in
||| tailgating cars that were "in his way" (and I mean twelve inches or
||| less from the back bumper) and flashing his lights until they gave
||| him what he wanted.
||
|| I had some twerp do that some time ago to me in a big artic, if it
|| happens to you, wait until a steep hill comes up then while you're on
|| it, slow right down and if possible stop, they'll still be on it 10
|| mins later building back up to 5MPH

Just slow enough the lose the turbo

--
Rich
==============================

2001 Disco II ES auto
1971 S2a 88" petrol
1991 Transit Camper

Take out the obvious to email me.

On or around Sat, 11 Nov 2006 14:51:26 -0000, "Richard Brookman"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>Ian Rawlings wrote:
>
>|| On 2006-11-11, Richard Brookman
>|| <[email protected]> wrote:
>||
>||| Dunno - he seemed laid back enough, but took a perverse delight in
>||| tailgating cars that were "in his way" (and I mean twelve inches or
>||| less from the back bumper) and flashing his lights until they gave
>||| him what he wanted.
>||
>|| I had some twerp do that some time ago to me in a big artic, if it
>|| happens to you, wait until a steep hill comes up then while you're on
>|| it, slow right down and if possible stop, they'll still be on it 10
>|| mins later building back up to 5MPH
>
>Just slow enough the lose the turbo

yer want to watch out playing games like that. You've seen "Duel", I
suppose?

some of the modern trucks are capable of (in theory, grip permitting)
pulling full weigh ton about a 50% gradient - the top-end units are over
600BHP now and more torque than a whole raft of 4236s.

The only reason they don't all cruise at 80-odd is legislation.
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"'Tis a mad world, my masters" John Taylor (1580-1633) Western Voyage, 1

Austin Shackles wrote:
> On or around Sat, 11 Nov 2006 14:51:26 -0000, "Richard Brookman"
> <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>
>> Ian Rawlings wrote:
>>
>>>> On 2006-11-11, Richard Brookman
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dunno - he seemed laid back enough, but took a perverse delight
>>>>> in tailgating cars that were "in his way" (and I mean twelve
>>>>> inches or less from the back bumper) and flashing his lights
>>>>> until they gave him what he wanted.
>>>>
>>>> I had some twerp do that some time ago to me in a big artic, if it
>>>> happens to you, wait until a steep hill comes up then while
>>>> you're on it, slow right down and if possible stop, they'll still
>>>> be on it 10 mins later building back up to 5MPH
>>
>> Just slow enough the lose the turbo
>
> yer want to watch out playing games like that. You've seen "Duel", I
> suppose?
>
> some of the modern trucks are capable of (in theory, grip permitting)
> pulling full weigh ton about a 50% gradient - the top-end units are
> over 600BHP now and more torque than a whole raft of 4236s.
>
> The only reason they don't all cruise at 80-odd is legislation.

hehehe - watched it last night, how odd!!! Superb film.

--
Ta!

Nige

Subaru WRX (54)
Land Rover 101 GS/Ambi (Morph)
Honda XL650 Transalp (2005)