water methanol injection
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says the man who brought arguing and grumpiness to a new low point 
no thats sean...i'm just grumpysays the man who brought arguing and grumpiness to a new low point
theorangebandit
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I sort of given up on the research to be honest. Its widely available in the states but a lit harder to source over here. Its seems a decent FMIC and hard piprling is all i need so ill go with what I know best lol
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Jason F
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As the idea is to get denser air into the engine, for short boosts of power the answer seems simple to me. Inject oxygen. You can fit a small industrial gas oxygen bottle somewhere. There's lots of room under my Discovery for small gas cylinders, the type used for oxy welding.
Note: it might be illegal to fit such a pressurised vessel, depending on where you live. But it seems to me that the risks associated with a small oxygen vessel are no greater than that of a camping vehicle with multiple 9kg LPG vessels on board with no special impact protection (and there are millions of these vehicles across the globe)?
Note: it might be illegal to fit such a pressurised vessel, depending on where you live. But it seems to me that the risks associated with a small oxygen vessel are no greater than that of a camping vehicle with multiple 9kg LPG vessels on board with no special impact protection (and there are millions of these vehicles across the globe)?
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It's also good for waking dormant threads
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and bringing it back into discussion ...
many years ago I raced "minirods" supposidly 850cc engines but then learned that many were bigger cc`s..
I never got a win in the 2 odd years I raced them..
now many years later, not only did I find out that the regular winners cheated, they cheated big time by using much bigger cc`s plus methanol injection via a 12volt switch.
they even modded the "allowed" SU carb to be directly controlled via the throttle cable and not engine vacuum.
such simple mods allowed big horsepower gains "at the time"
speedway bike engines are run on methanol, as are sprint & drag vehicles also with varying differences in % mixes.
even going back in the days were engine water injection kits you could buy, funny kits that prewarmed water before entering the inlet manifold..
not got a clue if they worked though.
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Ever seen the effect of mixing high concentrations of oxygen with oil? You'll end up with no inlet manifold at minimum.
The big advantage with water meth is it cools the burn temp and so reduces emissions. With water meth you can do away with egr's and urea pots, and other emmission controls. This has been used on jet engines for years, it also as has been mentioned improves the burn efficiency of the engine therefore giving more power. Standard concentrated screen wash should be sufficient for a diesel to see performance gains and improved emmissions.
On a turbo diesel the egr valve can only really work / open at idle and over run conditions, water meth has better emmissions control all the time. Both cool the burn temp thereby reducing the harmful compounds produced.
