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no, maybe just a little better than standard if one is available that doesnt rob the bottom end to gain 11hp at 5000rpm lol

its really more that I am worried about the quality of the standard ones even the ones in a LR bag may well come from the same place as the ****e ones and you cant tell till it starts tapping like a fooker and you have to take it all to bits again. Thats why I want to find either old leyland parts in there boxes (who would ever thought we would be saying that :p ) or get some of the newer stuff made in america.

those rhoads ones are noisy by design apparently so not sure about that now, just want some decent parts ffs :doh: lol
 
don't try this in a V8

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he means you dont need the rhoads type :D

if it helps your decision, the lifters in mine have done a thousand miles now (as has the rest! :D) and i they were from real steel i think!

the rhoads bleed-down are suitable for wild cams but other than that standard is the way.

progress engineering RC87 is the cam i would most like to fit to a 3.5, but tbh fett (almost) going back on everything that has been said between us, i now see that a land rover should really have a 4.6, they are just a bit too heavy for a 3.5 to make any decent progress!

thats not to say that mine isnt quite wonderful now, and that when it comes to second hand or not-tophat-linered blocks then 3.5 is the only safe option!! :D

so what im saying in a roundabout way is, try to get an RC87 but progress are a little off the radar so you might end up with a Real Steel or Eales cam, theyre all basically the same but i have heard the most favoritism towards the RC87.

cheers :)
 
which picture? :p

I know thats what poo meant but he was missing the point of what I said and why I was even looking at the rhoads ones.

what you say is right noisy, lets face it 8 liters of hemi would be even better but considering that I am going for a bit more power and maximum reliability within a budget and using (almost) readily available uk parts and a drop in fit to my landy it leaves me with the sd1 3.5 and like you say I am going for near 200hp with porting and a good cam new carbs and tubular headers.

I wont be starting work for at least a year so I an wait for the right bits and that why I am staring the hunt now. I want a motor that with 3k oil changes wont need stripping for another 200k miles and has a little more that the 8.25:1 power I have now :D

When you guys say standard lifters, where from? becuase here is so much ****e about how would I know if its ****part in a landy bag lol
 
buy your stuff from v8tuner or V8D

you should forget about getting stage3 heads, cam and new carbs and put in a 4.3 stroker kit.

fett said:
which picture? :p

I know thats what poo meant but he was missing the point of what I said and why I was even looking at the rhoads ones.

what you say is right noisy, lets face it 8 liters of hemi would be even better but considering that I am going for a bit more power and maximum reliability within a budget and using (almost) readily available uk parts and a drop in fit to my landy it leaves me with the sd1 3.5 and like you say I am going for near 200hp with porting and a good cam new carbs and tubular headers.

I wont be starting work for at least a year so I an wait for the right bits and that why I am staring the hunt now. I want a motor that with 3k oil changes wont need stripping for another 200k miles and has a little more that the 8.25:1 power I have now :D

When you guys say standard lifters, where from? becuase here is so much ****e about how would I know if its ****part in a landy bag lol
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Stroker crank is not a bad shout.

Especially if you're looking at new crank and pistons anyway, it might not be much more than standard bottom end and ported heads, similar horsepower I guess and lots more torque.

Estimate cost for stroker kit?

(I have a 3.5 sat in the corner waiting for a destiny but I wouldn't want to rebuild it standard, do ideally need more capacity because I NEED torque for the weight of my disco but avoiding big bore would also be nice)
 
last time I looked a stroker crank was crazy money, not just silly - crazy!!!!

I am not in to spending that kind of cash or needing that much power (I have my bmw for power and speed).

I will buy top notch bits for the rest of it though- so back to the real point where can I get real quality lifters and how can I tell them apart from ****e in LR bag? would you really trust it just because it came from either of those two places poo? what about real steel?
 
fett said:
last time I looked a stroker crank was crazy money, not just silly - crazy!!!!

I am not in to spending that kind of cash or needing that much power (I have my bmw for power and speed).

I will buy top notch bits for the rest of it though- so back to the real point where can I get real quality lifters and how can I tell them apart from ****e in LR bag? would you really trust it just because it came from either of those two places poo? what about real steel?
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actually the 4.3 would be more suited to the range rover than a 3.5 with staged heads and cam since it would have more torque low-mid. what you plan to do with your engine is really only going to have effect over 3000rpm.

it would be more expensive probably. 86.36mm crank would be around 800 plus a rebore new pistons and conrods.


using the same stroke in a 3.9 would give 4.8L - give real steel or v8tuner a call.
 
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POAH said:
actually the 4.3 would be more suited to the range rover than a 3.5 with staged heads and cam since it would have more torque low-mid. what you plan to do with your engine is really only going to have effect over 3000rpm.

it would be more expensive probably. 86.36mm crank would be around 800 plus a rebore new pistons and conrods.


using the same stroke in a 3.9 would give 4.8L - give real steel or v8tuner a call.
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A new cam is only about £150 and a set of rings and high quality followers and other valve gear and I will match port the heads my self before they get sent off to the machine shop for the rest. I hope to get it all done for the cost of a stroker crank lol
 
Yep, it does get into big big money when you start moving well away from standard.

Fett, I assume that v8 tuner/developments/real steel know what isn't **** and stock that stuff. They have a name to protect and that's why we in the know buy from them :)

Don't buy anything off eBay or random Internet sites.

The folks at v8 tuner were very helpful, I would buy again there. Although most of the stuff I got was all makes anyway!! :D
 
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