underslung gas tanks and gas tuning a 3.9

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Any one give us a clue in simple terms how to weaken the gas off and or richen it in SIMPLE terms.

Also looking for two torpedo tanks or similar to put under me sills so as to increase my range.

110 by the way.

OR, any one any ideas as to where to put gas tanks without moving the petrol tank?

Could use a 90 tank i suppose but then what size gas tank would go in where the petrol tank was, not one of them stupid doughnut tanks though:rolleyes:

Ta very much if you have any info that might help.
 
depending on your vapouriser type there will be 2 screws, one big one small, the big is usually the tickover bypass(tickover screw) and the other is the mixture control, small turns as they are sensitive!!!

as for tanks i have no idea !!!
 
What kind of gas system does it have?
If open loop, could have simple mixture screw on the supply line to the mixer, and or mixture screw on the vapouriser, and or delivery pressure regulator screw.
If closed loop,...... err..... likewise, except there will be a 'course' mixture screw on the stepper motor.
Tanks; 90 underseat tank and a pair of sill tanks slung under the overhand where the LWB tank should be, would be my preffered set up.
 
depending on your vapouriser type there will be 2 screws, one big one small, the big is usually the tickover bypass(tickover screw) and the other is the mixture control, small turns as they are sensitive!!!

as for tanks i have no idea !!!

Which way is weak , any ideas please.
 

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NORMALLY convention is as with any tap, screw it clockwise to close (go weak) anti-clockwise to open (go ritch)
Except for instance with the S.U. carbs which are in to richen and out to weaken:p
So I'm not sure what to twiddle with or which way:rolleyes:
 
Well, for the most part, lpg systems are constructed from stock gas fittings, working on gas flow, so more likely to follow convention than not.....

But we dont have the metal infront of us, you do, and even if we did, we'd probably not be much more informed than you........

At some point, you gotta give it a tweek and suck-it-an-see!

Gowarn! Tell you what, go get an EZ-Tune plug..... then you can watch the effect twiddling has, 'live' in the little sight glass!

Mixture setting on the old SU? You screw the main jet up and down? Clockwise screws it into the carb-body, lifting it around the needle, closing the jet, making it 'lean', anti-clockwise, lowers the jet, pulling it away from the needle, ritchening it up.......... (unless they put a see-saw arrangement on later versions or something!)

Do you mean the idle setting screw, or 'primary air jet'? Think that works contrary, becouse the tap is controling flow of air over the idle jet, not the flow of fuel through the jet, so it's still clock-wise to close, but closing chokes air-flow, not fuel flow, so the mixture goes air-weak, or fuel ritch.... if you see what I mean! (Seem to remember a lot of webbers were set on air not fuel, so closing taps meant ritch fuel)
 
Well, for the most part, lpg systems are constructed from stock gas fittings, working on gas flow, so more likely to follow convention than not.....

But we dont have the metal infront of us, you do, and even if we did, we'd probably not be much more informed than you........

At some point, you gotta give it a tweek and suck-it-an-see!

Gowarn! Tell you what, go get an EZ-Tune plug..... then you can watch the effect twiddling has, 'live' in the little sight glass!

Got a tuning plug thingy with a glass top, never thought of that , I'll dig it out and have a go.
I've started twidling allready and advanced the ignition a bit and she runs a lot better. Just need a light throttle now to run up the speed and she seems to have a lot more power. Cruises on the motorway at 60 hardly touching the throttle so should be using less gas.
No pinking on petrol either so may even need a little more. We'll see:)

Mixture setting on the old SU? You screw the main jet up and down? Clockwise screws it into the carb-body, lifting it around the needle, closing the jet, making it 'lean', anti-clockwise, lowers the jet, pulling it away from the needle, ritchening it up.......... (unless they put a see-saw arrangement on later versions or something!)

Yes, the old HS carbs did, as you say, screw up (in) to weaken but the later type of HIF as on my 3.5 have the floatbowl underneath the jet and the mixture screw on the side screws in to richen as it lowers the jet by screwing it in and raises the jet by screwing out to weaken.

Do you mean the idle setting screw, or 'primary air jet'? Think that works contrary, becouse the tap is controling flow of air over the idle jet, not the flow of fuel through the jet, so it's still clock-wise to close, but closing chokes air-flow, not fuel flow, so the mixture goes air-weak, or fuel ritch.... if you see what I mean! (Seem to remember a lot of webbers were set on air not fuel, so closing taps meant ritch fuel)

I'll try setting the gas after I've used this latest fill as I want to check what effect avancing the timing has had on economy.
I've been reading up on the gas system and it gets more and more confusing, the system uses vacuum to operate and shutting things down sometimes alter the vacuum and so the mixture. Thought maybe someone had gone through all this and set theirs so making things easy for me:confused::rolleyes:

made a balls up of answering and it's ended up in the quoted bits:doh::doh:
 
Also looking for two torpedo tanks or similar to put under me sills so as to increase my range.
110 by the way.

Watch your clearances underneath if you go off road a fair bit, mounting them underneath WILL affect your ramp over angle significantly.
Had this problem with my last Disco and ended up doing a serious lift with big tyres just to get the tanks out of the dirt! :doh:
 
Watch your clearances underneath if you go off road a fair bit, mounting them underneath WILL affect your ramp over angle significantly.
Had this problem with my last Disco and ended up doing a serious lift with big tyres just to get the tanks out of the dirt! :doh:

Only go off road with the 110 when it breaks down and I head for the grass verge and the Rangie is just for towing at the moment. Any way, just chewing over the possibility of putting the 2.8td out of my Zoo Zoo in either the 110 or the Rangie in front of an LT77 box and forget the gas. Have to weigh up the cost of conversion though.
Could stick one of the V8s in my project Frogeyed sprite / TVR hybrid track car. But would the Jag salisbury diff be high enough behind an auto, maybe not.:D
 
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