Tyre advice part 2

Following on from my previous post about the tyres on my new freelander sport.

I'm abit confused about sizes, load value to be precise....

The tyres currently on the car at 235/50/18 with a load of 101.

I'm struggling alot to find options with that load value.

Could I replace all the tyres with a tyre of the same dimensions but a load of 97?

alot more options with that load value

Thanks

i think it depends on the load (weight) you aim to put on the tyre ..

Tyres-Online: Technical Information: Load Indices

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i've 225/55 H 17 : Pirelli Scorpion STR's on my 2006 hippo1 td4 van
load rating 97

gazdkw82 said:

Following on from my previous post about the tyres on my new freelander sport.

I'm abit confused about sizes, load value to be precise....

The tyres currently on the car at 235/50/18 with a load of 101.

I'm struggling alot to find options with that load value.

Could I replace all the tyres with a tyre of the same dimensions but a load of 97?

alot more options with that load value

Thanks

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No problem with a 97 load index - they would still exceed the max axle load on the rear of a Freelander by approx 300kg.

Singvogel.

So these will be ok then?

4 2355018 Dunlop 235 50 18 Used Part Worn Tyres x 4 Car 235/50 18 SP Sport 01 | eBay

Dont go for 2nd hand tyres mate, friend of mine bought 2nd hand tyres and the shreaded...not good, im not.flush with money but i read that the only thing between you and the road (and disaster) are the tyres.you run on, so bought some falkens for £120 fitted each and they are great.

I find it strange, everybody seems to say don't buy 2nd hand tyres but when you buy a used car, it comes with 2nd hand tyres but do people go and change the tyres straight away, no I don't think so.
Now saying that, I do tend to agree with not buying 2nd hand if you have the budget to buy new but not all of us have that budget luxury and I think buying a decent set of quality brand 2nd hand if preferable over buying a new set of ditch finders

Well norfie, you say that, but it was reading the various posts on this website that prompted me to buy 4 new tyres for mine as soon as I had it on the drive, for peace of mind as much as anything. Maybe I'm in the minority though.....

norfie said:

I find it strange, everybody seems to say don't buy 2nd hand tyres but when you buy a used car, it comes with 2nd hand tyres but do people go and change the tyres straight away, no I don't think so.

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Yes, they do if they have done ANY research on this car and have two brains cells to rub together. It is not a budget luxury, it's a budget necessity which should have been included in any cost projections done before going out and buying a Freelander. Unless you have bought one from a very concientious owner who has done all the right things, you will probably have a total mis matched mess of tyres at totally different ages and states of wear.

If you can't afford to run a Freelander properly, don't. Almost every problem with them is due to spoilong the ship for a ha'penny of tar. People cheap out, and then wonder why their IRD explodes and their head gaskets get shat out.

crockett007 said:

Maybe I'm in the minority though.....

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Yes you are, you are in the small minority that treat their vehicles with respect which is why you won't have to have yours towed off the M4 spilling its guts into traffic.

WLJayne said:

Yes, they do if they have done ANY research on this car and have two brains cells to rub together. It is not a budget luxury, it's a budget necessity which should have been included in any cost projections done before going out and buying a Freelander. Unless you have bought one from a very concientious owner who has done all the right things, you will probably have a total mis matched mess of tyres at totally different ages and states of wear.

If you can't afford to run a Freelander properly, don't. Almost every problem with them is due to spoilong the ship for a ha'penny of tar. People cheap out, and then wonder why their IRD explodes and their head gaskets get shat out.


Yes you are, you are in the small minority that treat their vehicles with respect which is why you won't have to have yours towed off the M4 spilling its guts into traffic.

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I can see you have some strong feelings on this which I agree with to some extent. The OP obvously has a budget in mind and I feel he is doing the best with that by buying 4 branded tyres with the same amount wear. I did excatly the same with my 1st FL, it came with 3 different makes of tyre so I changed for a set of 4 matching part worns which lasted me long enough to save for a set of new Pirelli's thus not increasing the risk to the ird. That FL then went onto 129,000 before I sold it with only having to change 2 rear diff mounts and a window regulator. The only thing I realy done to it was have it serviced every year with the MOT which worked out at a service every 9,000ish miles.

gazdkw82 said:

So these will be ok then?

4 2355018 Dunlop 235 50 18 Used Part Worn Tyres x 4 Car 235/50 18 SP Sport 01 | eBay

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Hmmm second hand tyres! Bit of a mine field, apart from freelander issues that are well covered, you don't know what you are getting most of the time! If you know their history they're probably fine. But, would you want a tyre that's been in a six car pile up? Possibly causing serious structural damage to the carcass of the tyre that isn't necessarily obvious? A lot of part worns come from scrap yards, where most cars in there aren't there because of there outstanding condition! So buying a car with old tyres on it is a much lesser risk as you're pretty sure it's not been in a pile up! (hopefully) also tyres have a life expectancy, some part worns are way past it, the rubber can actually go hard and reduce grip! So you need to be very careful with second hand tyres!!!!

WLJayne said:

Yes, they do if they have done ANY research on this car and have two brains cells to rub together. It is not a budget luxury, it's a budget necessity which should have been included in any cost projections done before going out and buying a Freelander. Unless you have bought one from a very concientious owner who has done all the right things, you will probably have a total mis matched mess of tyres at totally different ages and states of wear.

If you can't afford to run a Freelander properly, don't. Almost every problem with them is due to spoilong the ship for a ha'penny of tar. People cheap out, and then wonder why their IRD explodes and their head gaskets get shat out.



Yes you are, you are in the small minority that treat their vehicles with respect which is why you won't have to have yours towed off the M4 spilling its guts into traffic.

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You're in the minority! Vast majority don't even open their bonnets, some don't know how! People on here are a bit different mostly, they seem to be here because they have an interest, but I imagine how much varies greatly!

Diesel Do said:

You're in the minority! Vast majority don't even open their bonnets, some don't know how! People on here are a bit different mostly, they seem to be here because they have an interest, but I imagine how much varies greatly!

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Agree

personal preference, wouldn't go down this road myself, but do understand that budgetary constraints can be a real issue.

should you buy these, put the ones with more tread on the rear.

Also consider that 2 of these tyres are approaching the end of their life anyway, with just 3 to 4mm of tread on them. Certainly the wear bars look like becoming level with the tread in the middle, which would indicate a slight degree of over inflation at some stage in their life.

Depending on the style of driving and the make of tyre, it is conceivable that the tyre is beyond it's life, even if it has plenty of tread left. When I had the tyres replaced on mine, they were still legal with a fair amount of tread, but were showing signs of perishing.

Tread is not the only indicator of tyre condition, by buying online you cannot assess the condition of the tyre sidewalls, etc, even if you possess the necessary experience.

I wish you luck in your quest.

norfie said:

I can see you have some strong feelings on this which I agree with to some extent. The OP obvously has a budget in mind and I feel he is doing the best with that by buying 4 branded tyres with the same amount wear. I did excatly the same with my 1st FL, it came with 3 different makes of tyre so I changed for a set of 4 matching part worns which lasted me long enough to save for a set of new Pirelli's thus not increasing the risk to the ird. That FL then went onto 129,000 before I sold it with only having to change 2 rear diff mounts and a window regulator. The only thing I realy done to it was have it serviced every year with the MOT which worked out at a service every 9,000ish miles.

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Yeh I get a bit frustrated sometimes with people in general when they dive into something without any respect or understanding for what they're getting into . They do it with houses, lovers, Land Rovers - all sorts. They never seem to get it. That wasn't directed at you or the OP so much, but it's why we get the occasional sobbing owner of a total wreck here. Most of the time I'm happy to help, but it would be a merrier world if people thought before they leapt more .

I'm doing pretty much the same as you, except my VCU is on its way out so I'm running 2wd for now but I'm almost at the point where I can get some quality tyres on there.

Will.

Since reading this and doing some research Iv decided not to buy used tyres, instead Iv ordered 4 accelera tyres.

It's the best I could afford.

£350 for 4......

Done some research and they look a good budget tyre

Fair do's I think that's a sensible decision. Let us know what they're like .

Hi Everyone,
This thread has raised a question that I would like opinions on.
In 2008 I replaced all 4 tyres with new Pirelli Scorpion STR's. At the time I was doing about 5000 miles a year.
That's now dropped to 3000.
I've run mine at LR's recommended 30psi and I reckon they've got enough tread for at least another 4 years.
How many years should a tyre in everyday use last?
I know a lot will probably depend on the quality and use of the tyre, but I wondered if there was a general 'rule of thumb'.
Thanks David

talldavey said:

Hi Everyone,
This thread has raised a question that I would like opinions on.
In 2008 I replaced all 4 tyres with new Pirelli Scorpion STR's. At the time I was doing about 5000 miles a year.
That's now dropped to 3000.
I've run mine at LR's recommended 30psi and I reckon they've got enough tread for at least another 4 years.
How many years should a tyre in everyday use last?
I know a lot will probably depend on the quality and use of the tyre, but I wondered if there was a general 'rule of thumb'.
Thanks David

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Normally you'll wear the tyres out before age becomes an issue! (as long as you rotate them) even at relatively low mileages. It's more of a problem on trailers and caravans! But you should inspect your tyres regularly (I know, we all do that) for damage, nails, screws, cuts, splits, bulges, irregular wear, cracking and perishing. Not forgetting pressures! Signs of old age are cracking and perishing. That's one reason why second hand tyres are a bad idea cos they could've been sat around for years. The rubber also goes hard which is a lot harder to gauge!
There should be a code on the side wall which is a date stamp which gives the date of manufacture!

Diesel Do said:

Normally you'll wear the tyres out before age becomes an issue! (as long as you rotate them) even at relatively low mileages. It's more of a problem on trailers and caravans! But you should inspect your tyres regularly (I know, we all do that) for damage, nails, screws, cuts, splits, bulges, irregular wear, cracking and perishing. Not forgetting pressures! Signs of old age are cracking and perishing. That's one reason why second hand tyres are a bad idea cos they could've been sat around for years. The rubber also goes hard which is a lot harder to gauge!
There should be a code on the side wall which is a date stamp which gives the date of manufacture!

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Thanks for that information.
You mention rotating the tyres, yet LR state in the owners handbook not to.
My FL has been serviced regularly at a local indie, but I don't think they've moved them around as you suggest.
If they haven't, then it's probably too late now after 4yrs.
David

talldavey said:

Thanks for that information.
You mention rotating the tyres, yet LR state in the owners handbook not to.
My FL has been serviced regularly at a local indie, but I don't think they've moved them around as you suggest.
If they haven't, then it's probably too late now after 4yrs.
David

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That wasn't a freelander specific statement! It was more general. You just keep the largest on the back on freelanders