Towing Confusion

Treworgey 90 said:

I don't give a fook, cos I is an old git and passed me test in 1976.

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Was that in a Foden???

Treworgey 90 said:

I don't give a fook, cos I is an old git and passed me test in 1976.

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Same here which is why I don't really give a flyin fook.

Sirus said:

Was that in a Foden???

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nah - an HB Viva.

have driven one of these though

Hi,

The way I read the DVLA advice, which comes in two seperate paragraphs, you can tow up to 750kg without worrying about the weight of the tow car, OR, you can tow over 750kg provided the towcar weighs more unladen. Doh! I forgot to check if they say unladen or kerbweight. Relevent paragraphs are .........

B Motor vehicles with a MAM of up to 3,500 kg, no more than eight passenger seats, with or without a trailer - weighing no more than 750 kg
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B As category B but with a trailer weighing more than 750 kg. The total weight of the vehicle and the trailer together can’t weigh more than 3,500 kg. The weight of the trailer, when fully loaded, can’t weigh more than the unladen weight of the vehicle


Of course, there is no guarantee that what they say is what they mean. And other regulations such as C&U are probably there to prevent you enjoying yourself.

While searching, I found that provisional licence holders are not allowed to tow anything, which was not in agreement with another statement that a learner could tow a trailer, but could not take a trailer test until he had passed a solo test. At least, I think thats what it said..... I don't know if I can find it again.

602

Hi,

And reading that again, you can drive a truck up to 3500kg MGW AND tow a trailer weighing 750kg, total of 4250kg.

but you cannot drive a truck with MGW of 3499kg (or even 2750kg) and tow a trailer of 751kg MGW. Trading MGWs ain't allowed.

602

byway-basher said:

Prison is a risk, but not as big a risk as it used to be, other than that the last bit here I do agree with in general.

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Is the punishment three points for not complying with yer liscence and a varible fine for towing without B+E?Or are we talking for being over weight?

goonarmy said:

Is the punishment three points for not complying with yer liscence and a varible fine for towing without B+E?Or are we talking for being over weight?

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Prison is a risk, but only when the charge levelled is the worst case scenario of causing death by dangerous driving. The poster I was quoting/responding to did mention serious accidents resulting in death/injury. Driving a combination that a person is not entitled to resulting in a fatal collision is likely to get a DbDD charge, but actually has little to do with their lack of entitlement, its just another supporting point for the prosecution.

For just a routine stop, that would certainly be driving other than in accordance with a licence and probably no insurance too. So that would be vehicle, trailer and load seized. Of course any other offences could be added on too such as overloaded trailer, insecure load, bald tyres, ineffective handbrake. All depends on the officer performing the stop and the drivers performance in the attitude test.

youngster

Hi,

Once upon a time, insurance certificates contained the phrase "holds or has held a licence, and is not disqualified". I'm not sure that they still say this. ???

Somewhere in my loft, I have my old "red book" driving licence, going back about fifty years (passed test in 1958). I'm sure that one of my licences, from way back then, gave me provisional entitlement to drive all sorts of obscure vehicles. Trolley bus?

So, can I claim to "have held a licence", for insurance purposes?

My father's full driving licence simply said "ALL GROUPS".

602

watched one them traffic police progs on sky a while back

the driver didnt have a +b licence and got 3 points & £60 fine and had to get someone to pick car up.