Totally reliant on a 21 year old 110 with 234k on the clock!!

Mother" <"@ {mother} @ wrote:
> On Tue, 20 Sep 2005 21:11:31 +0100, "Nige"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I am amazed at the judicial process is so clinical. All the judge is
>> interested in is cold hard facts,
>
>
> What else could any peer base their judgement upon? A basic principle
> on our legal system is 'proof', not, as you say, superfluous bollocks.

Yeah, it's odd though, you hear all manner of horror stories about 'the law' Like anything you read, read
it at your leisure & believe it at your peril..................

>
>
>> It's a funny old game - the law!
>
>
> Like it or (as I do at times) loath it, "The Law" is the only thing
> that barely protects us from complete anarchy - and believe me,
> complete anarchy is pretty close at times, and not the utopia that
> some political philosophers would have us believe it is.

Mate, I live in Bradford, i know what anarchy is! Having witnessed years of police turning a blind eye to
some members of society, black white or ****ing orange & the same members of society turning parts of
Bradford into no-go zones for ANYONE, let alone the cops!

Recently, things have got much better after the riots (I witnessed them too) The rioters got serious
sentances, the Police are doing more to clean up the vermin that infest the city. To be honest, it's
gonna take a lot to keep me & my family in this country though. No positivity that i can see. The problem
for me is I love the place, just not (all)the folk!!

"what we are dealing with here is a total disregard for the law"

Nige

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Mother <"@ {mother} @"@101fc.net> wrote:

> On Tue, 20 Sep 2005 21:11:31 +0100, "Nige"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >I am amazed at the judicial process is so clinical. All the judge is interested in is cold hard facts,
>
>
> What else could any peer base their judgement upon? A basic principle
> on our legal system is 'proof', not, as you say, superfluous bollocks.
>

It is, however, sad that we have moved away from operating in the
spirit of the law to operating within the letter of the law over
recent years, thus allowing a lot of nasty people to get off on some
ridiculous technicality.*

>
> >It's a funny old game - the law!
>
>
> Like it or (as I do at times) loath it, "The Law" is the only thing
> that barely protects us from complete anarchy - and believe me,
> complete anarchy is pretty close at times, and not the utopia that
> some political philosophers would have us believe it is.
>
>

Richard

*excludes motoring offences, where the easiest target, i.e. the
least articulate or those with the least access to legal adivce
get done.

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On Wed, 21 Sep 2005 07:21:12 +0000 (UTC), beamendsltd
<[email protected]> wrote:

>It is, however, sad that we have moved away from operating in the
>spirit of the law to operating within the letter of the law over
>recent years, thus allowing a lot of nasty people to get off on some
>ridiculous technicality.*

I think a lot of reform was born from the changing environment within
which we live. The cases that may come before a Court are more
complex and the arguments much more sophisticated than may have been
the case in t1imes gone by. Much of this is due to many cases
"falling at the first" and never going to Court, this will inevitably
skew the perception of many.

Having said this, there is perhaps more scope for discretion now, and
many other factors are taken into consideration before sentence.

On Tue, 20 Sep 2005 21:49:17 +0100, Mother <"@ {mother} @"@101fc.net>
wrote:

>On Tue, 20 Sep 2005 21:11:31 +0100, "Nige"
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>I am amazed at the judicial process is so clinical. All the judge is interested in is cold hard facts,
>
>
>What else could any peer base their judgement upon? A basic principle
>on our legal system is 'proof', not, as you say, superfluous bollocks.
>
>

That's alright, this government is doing all they can to rectify this
dreadfull state of affairs. Vis-a-vis the right to hold suspect
without trial or hearing, removal of right to trail by jury, elimation
of Haebus Corpus etc etc

Alex