Tools

You did "Yella Disco" but I thought it deserved to be highlighted.

As for tool tips I suggest buying the best that you can afford as most tools will do what
they were designed to do but good tools will allow you to abuse them a lot more (scaffolding poles on socket wrenches).

Ps
Halfrauds do there own socket set with a no quibble lifetime guarantee
i know i split a 27mm socket (yes scaffolding pole) on a 20 year old socket set and they just swapped it for me no questions.

a good trolley jack! the ones supplied by LR are very optimistic. the one supplied with the p38 looks like it wouldnt hold up a mini, never mind a 3 ton lump like a rangey.

what do people think of the halfords quality? eghttp://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10001&langId=-1&catalogId=10151&productId=173022&categoryId=31535

Its quite a lot of tools for £60, however used as they should be they would be fine...

Have a look at the spanners, the cheap ones that bend have a poor finnish usually, and can look like polished plastic. The snap on kit you saw at your work experience as you know has a good finnish, and just looks quality.

With landys expect lots of rusted on bolts etc... so you can expect to have a lot of brute force being applied through these tools.

The hammers have been touched on above, however I must mention again, you will need a hammer... infact a few, in different weights...

Much like in the hit Bond film Goldeneye...

"Pass me the hammer Jimmy" <Bond passes Valentine a small engineering hammer> "No the bigger one, the sledge" <Bond passes the sledge... Valentine hits engine with sledge... vrooom...>

there are some good deals to be had on ebay too, have a look at toms toolchest(he's an ebay member) he sells beta tools, they are the italian version of snap on and half the price, also pro-american are reasonable as are sealey

When I was Apprentices Toolmaker years ago "Britool" tools were the Billy B******s socket sets.
Although they cost.
http://www.tooled-up.com/ManProduct...a760c-1-2-inch-Square-Drive-Socket-Set-A-F-mm

Only £660
I wish i had borrowed some when i left.

Ps
These are NATO standard for fixing your "Tank" or "Aircraft carrier"

Teng tools do a chest complete with tools in it. They are good value.

any thoughts about this one? http://www.mccormicktools.com/product.php?id=1145612916 i would trust Draper more as its a company whos tools i have a few of myself aready.

That should cover most things to begin with.

Good value at that price.

the problem with these sets you are looking at is that there are tools in em that you will never use and you pay for the box as well. if i were you i would get a cheap box from somewheree like machine mart then each week visit your local car boot sale and buy whatever you can, you will get a load more fer yer money, where abouts are you, ive got a box of old spanners that i never use

That is very useful box in my opinion.

Especially if you like to stay organised.

it has no spanners, a pair of waterpump pliers,a rubber mallet,a tape measure and a stanley knife, all of which would be little use. personally i think its a lot of money for very few decsent toolsand a pile o ****e

http://www.machinemart.co.uk/product.asp?p=040211548&r=2073&g=111
have a look at that matey, much better for you

that looks much better, is clarke a good enough make? i live between oxford and swindon.

have a look here.

http://www.tengtools.com/

yella, would you say clarke is a reputable (think thats the right word) make?

clarke are lenty good enough to start off with, they aresrong enough for a beginner , you can order off line and they will deliver or look and see if they have a branch near you, you don't live in farringdon do you

Ahh ok brilliant thanks. well im about 10mins in the car from faringdon!!! i go to Faringdon Comunity College. i live in stanford in the vale if you know the area

why? i wonder...