Those concrete vehicle barriers...

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"Mother" wrote
> ...seem to work pretty well:
>
> http://www.101fc.net/files/vids/VehicleBarrier.wmv
>

On a serious note, why can't we have those too? Almost weekly I hear of
vehicles breaking through the crash barrier on motorways with drivers on
that carriageway then possibly having a "head on" (much more lethal than a
side swipe) so why not.
Looks like the M25 where it's being widened will have similar concrete
barriers.

--
Regards
Bob
In Runnymede, 17 miles West of London


 
On Tue, 9 Aug 2005 22:55:15 +0100, "Bob Hobden" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>On a serious note, why can't we have those too? Almost weekly I hear of
>vehicles breaking through the crash barrier on motorways with drivers on
>that carriageway then possibly having a "head on" (much more lethal than a
>side swipe) so why not.

I'd be happier with safer drivers and no need for such barriers.
Utopia is somewhat far away though, and concrete is cheaper than
education.

 
On Tue, 9 Aug 2005 22:55:15 +0100, "Bob Hobden" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
>"Mother" wrote
>> ...seem to work pretty well:
>>
>> http://www.101fc.net/files/vids/VehicleBarrier.wmv
>>
>
>On a serious note, why can't we have those too? Almost weekly I hear of
>vehicles breaking through the crash barrier on motorways with drivers on
>that carriageway then possibly having a "head on" (much more lethal than a
>side swipe) so why not.
>Looks like the M25 where it's being widened will have similar concrete
>barriers.

It takes a hell of a lot to cross the barrier. I recently witnessed a
large Sprinter hit one at about 30 degrees (after overtaking me at
about 100mph) and it landed on the right side of the carriageway
(albeit the wrong way up).

Surprisingly effective are the rope barriers, which are designed to
snap off their posts and provide a less drastic stopping action whilst
keeping the vehicle out of the opposing lane. Had the Sprinter lost
control a few miles further up near Meadowhall he might well have
stayed the right way up.

But the answer to your question is almost certainly 'cost'...


--

Tim Hobbs

'58 Series 2 88" aka "Stig"
'77 101FC Ambulance aka "Burrt"
'03 Volvo V70
 
On or around Tue, 09 Aug 2005 20:48:21 +0100, Mother <"@ {m} @"@101fc.net>
enlightened us thusly:

>...seem to work pretty well:
>
>http://www.101fc.net/files/vids/VehicleBarrier.wmv
>

Blimey. that's quite impressive stopping power.
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
"There is plenty of time to win this game, and to thrash the Spaniards
too" Sir Francis Drake (1540? - 1596) Attr. saying when the Armarda was
sighted, 20th July 1588
 
In news:[email protected],
Austin Shackles <[email protected]> blithered:
> On or around Tue, 09 Aug 2005 20:48:21 +0100, Mother <"@ {m}
> @"@101fc.net> enlightened us thusly:
>
>> ...seem to work pretty well:
>>
>> http://www.101fc.net/files/vids/VehicleBarrier.wmv
>>
>
> Blimey. that's quite impressive stopping power.

Indeed, begs the question, how well is the iceberg rooted?

--
"He who says it cannot be done should not interrupt her doing it."

If at first you don't succeed,
maybe skydiving's not for you!


 
Tim Hobbs wrote:
> On Tue, 9 Aug 2005 22:55:15 +0100, "Bob Hobden" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> "Mother" wrote
>>> ...seem to work pretty well:
>>>
>>> http://www.101fc.net/files/vids/VehicleBarrier.wmv
>>>
>>
>> On a serious note, why can't we have those too? Almost weekly I hear
>> of vehicles breaking through the crash barrier on motorways with
>> drivers on that carriageway then possibly having a "head on" (much
>> more lethal than a side swipe) so why not.
>> Looks like the M25 where it's being widened will have similar
>> concrete barriers.
>
> It takes a hell of a lot to cross the barrier. I recently witnessed a
> large Sprinter hit one at about 30 degrees (after overtaking me at
> about 100mph) and it landed on the right side of the carriageway
> (albeit the wrong way up).
>
> Surprisingly effective are the rope barriers, which are designed to
> snap off their posts and provide a less drastic stopping action whilst
> keeping the vehicle out of the opposing lane. Had the Sprinter lost
> control a few miles further up near Meadowhall he might well have
> stayed the right way up.
>
> But the answer to your question is almost certainly 'cost'...

Saw a truck hit that around Jc 35 (M1) a few years ago, like you say very effictive & cheaper to install
than armco too.

Wouldn't have though either system would help much if you are on a bike!

Nige
--
Subaru WRX (Annabel)

Landrover 110 County Station Wagon (Tyson)

'"Say hello to my little friend"


 
On 10 Aug 2005 07:34:41 -0700, [email protected] wrote:

>Only if you painted a motorbike on the concrete.

My Volvo has just made no impact on a Mazda 626.

Mazda - scuffed bumper
Volvo - new rear door, new rear wing, nearside respray and blend

I'm getting a lot of stick...


--

Tim Hobbs

'58 Series 2 88" aka "Stig"
'77 101FC Ambulance aka "Burrt"
'03 Volvo V70
 
On Wed, 10 Aug 2005 19:45:53 GMT, Alex <[email protected]>
wrote:

>>http://www.101fc.net/files/vids/VehicleBarrier.wmv
>>
>
>This must be fake, I've seen the movies and vehicles ALWAYS explode in
>a huge fireball which destroys the entire vehicle when they hit
>things!

Mebe they have slightly more than .5L of fuel in them...

I'd be more interested to see the follow-up footage where the guys in
the following van go "whoa look at tha......" as they forget to break.

 
On or around Wed, 10 Aug 2005 21:05:13 +0100, Mother <"@ {m} @"@101fc.net>
enlightened us thusly:

>On Wed, 10 Aug 2005 19:45:53 GMT, Alex <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>>>http://www.101fc.net/files/vids/VehicleBarrier.wmv
>>>
>>
>>This must be fake, I've seen the movies and vehicles ALWAYS explode in
>>a huge fireball which destroys the entire vehicle when they hit
>>things!
>
>Mebe they have slightly more than .5L of fuel in them...
>
>I'd be more interested to see the follow-up footage where the guys in
>the following van go "whoa look at tha......" as they forget to break.

I should imagine remaining unbroken after hitting something that hard would
be next-to-impossible.
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
"You praise the firm restraint with which they write -_
I'm with you there, of course: They use the snaffle and the bit
alright, but where's the bloody horse? - Roy Campbell (1902-1957)
 
Well Tim, they certainly don't make them like the used to. put my '73 164
volvo against my S3 head to head, i dont reckon there would be a great deal
of difference. both built like brick ****houses and both way almost exactly
the same.

Sam.


>
> >Only if you painted a motorbike on the concrete.
>
> My Volvo has just made no impact on a Mazda 626.
>
> Mazda - scuffed bumper
> Volvo - new rear door, new rear wing, nearside respray and blend
>
> I'm getting a lot of stick...
>
>
> --
>
> Tim Hobbs
>
> '58 Series 2 88" aka "Stig"
> '77 101FC Ambulance aka "Burrt"
> '03 Volvo V70


 
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