Thinking of getting a p38 but which one?

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No more diesel for me, noisy and cannot get me exited.


The V8 on the other hand:p Just the sound:cool:
 
The 4.6 is hardly a fire breathing monster. To my mind it merely provides an appropriate amount of oomph that any luxury car should have. In no way could it be called 'fast', in any normal sense of the word.

Given that the 4.6 is acceptable, the 4.0 feels a bit underpowered and the diesel completely so, to my mind. Nothing wrong with the diesel engine (soundtrack notwithstanding) per se, its great in a 3 Series and ok in a 5 Series, but in a 2.5 tonne Range Rover?!? Do me a favour...
 
odysseus said:
The 4.6 is hardly a fire breathing monster. To my mind it merely provides an appropriate amount of oomph that any luxury car should have. In no way could it be called 'fast', in any normal sense of the word.

Given that the 4.6 is acceptable, the 4.0 feels a bit underpowered and the diesel completely so, to my mind. Nothing wrong with the diesel engine (soundtrack notwithstanding) per se, its great in a 3 Series and ok in a 5 Series, but in a 2.5 tonne Range Rover?!? Do me a favour...
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+1, the v8 in a p38 is as old as gods dog and got low bhp.i never thought id say this being a v8 man myself but the bmw engine is a lot newer and in my opp does well in a p38.i know its not fast well my old one wasn't but plenty of torque and sounds nice,my l322 4.4 v8 vogue will absolutely walk over any p38 ive ever owned or driven powerwise
 
wil2813 said:
+1, the v8 in a p38 is as old as gods dog and got low bhp.i never thought id say this being a v8 man myself but the bmw engine is a lot newer and in my opp does well in a p38.i know its not fast well my old one wasn't but plenty of torque and sounds nice,my l322 4.4 v8 vogue will absolutely walk over any p38 ive ever owned or driven powerwise
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And the brand new model Range Rover will walk all over your L322. It's horses for courses :)
 
The only drawback of new, more economical, more powerful diesels is that they are now really complicated - somewhat defeating the traditional ideas of a diesel I guess
 
Reading this, it's probably wise of me to keep my dirty german thoughts to myself...:D:p

If i found the urge somewhere or somehow to dabble back in P38's I would go for a late D2 or Early D3. As mentioned the load space for a huge car is quite disappointing for your camping equipmnent - that huge sloping rear window chops of more space than most realise. You would not also want to live life on such an edge that a P38 would be your only car and your daily runaround.
 
Datatek said:
Absolutely, the 4.6 is not that powerful, people just think it is because of the noise.
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So you say the 90-100 extra Bhp over a diesel is only creating noise, don't agree at all:fencing:


I've driven two p38 diesels and they were slow and noisy - end off:D
 
Pmsl a p38 is slow and uneconomical. Having owned a v8 p38 it is nothing to write home about performance wise.

300hp would be better and several cracked blocks later
 
Druim said:
So you say the 90-100 extra Bhp over a diesel is only creating noise, don't agree at all:fencing:
I didn't say that, I said a chipped diesel will stay with a V8.


I've driven two p38 diesels and they were slow and noisy - end off:D
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222Bhp for the 4.6 and the chipped diesel can do 180Bhp, so yes not quite up there but certainly not slow, as for torque 380Nm for the 4.6 and something like 350Nm for the diesel chipped which is why it chews the ZF4HP22.
As for noise, apart from at idle the engine is inaudible on mine, none of that nasty V8 rumbling uneven beat that can be felt as well as heard.:)
 
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Datatek said:
222Bhp for the 4.6 and the chipped diesel can do 180Bhp, so yes not quite up there but certainly not slow, as for torque 380Nm for the 4.6 and something like 350Nm for the diesel chipped which is why it chews the ZF4HP22.
As for noise, apart from at idle the engine is inaudible on mine, none of that nasty V8 rumbling uneven beat that can be felt as well as heard.:)
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The chip develops 46hp? Certainly explains the performance difference!
 
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