Thinking about buying my first LR

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Hello, we're looking at a used 1998/50 year anniversity with 81k. It's
a private sale. Can someone give me some questions and checks one can
do during the inspection?

Thanks!

 
One other thing. Our next car needs to have some towing power for
dragging around some general equiptment that we occasionally rent to
work on our property (large chippers, etc.). How does the power/tranny
compare with, say, a 3/4 ton pickup truck (f-250, etc.)

Thanks!

 
[email protected] wrote:
> One other thing. Our next car needs to have some towing power for
> dragging around some general equiptment that we occasionally rent to
> work on our property (large chippers, etc.). How does the power/tranny
> compare with, say, a 3/4 ton pickup truck (f-250, etc.)
>
> Thanks!
>


I towed a >2t trailer with a 3.5 110 for 2 years, it was the best tow
vehicle I had and I regret letting it go. I imagine that a 200 or 300
will be fine, although the older 2.5TD 90 I also used suffered a bit
towing every day.

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The 50th is a great car, refined by Land Rover or commercial vehicle
standards, but not by car standards.

They all leak water - usually into the footwells and above the front
doors into the inside - this because the bodys are difficult to seal
and there is a gutter on the inside on the roof beneath the headlining.
So look for any staining or water damage on the
headlining/upholstery/carpet.

The car is also over-geared as standard - some people say for the
American market, others because the gears they used were quieter. If
it has had the 1.411 transfer gear ratio conversion (as many have) the
gears will whine but it should not be intrusive. Also make sure that
the stubby low range gear lever will move between low and high ratio.

The gear change should be quick and smooth - if there are any thumps or
bangs when shifting there is wear in the transmission or driveline -
walk away! Also check the driveline by taking the car to 65mph and
apply/back off the throttle. This will also reveal 'shunt' in the
driveline - any slower and the auto-box will mask the shunt.

Little oil leaks are to be expected from the engine, but if the top of
the engine is oily beware - it is an indication that the breathing
system is not working properly due to irregular maintenance. Listen to
the engine too - if you hear a regular tapping it also indicates wear
in the camshaft and tappets caused by age/and or irregular servicing.
The V8 engine is very heavy on it's camshaft - at 80,000 miles it will
need replacing soon - budget £500- for this. Even a light tapping is a
warning of this! Take a small torch to take a peek into the top of the
engine with the oil filler cap off the colour should be light golden or
lighter - any darker - walk away, it will need an engine rebuild.

The service history is very important, a missed service will damage a
V8 engine. Also check the filler cap for emulsion or 'mayonnaise' -
this indicates a head gasket or even worse a leaking cylinder liner
(the block is aluminium, the liners steel). Ask the seller - 'how
often do you have to top up the radiator?' - 'has the car ever
overheated?' - and if the answer is once a month or more and yes - walk
away!

On the road test make sure you run the nearside front wheel over a few
potholes on the test drive, if the steering wobbles violently you know
you have bushes, dampers and swivels to repair/replace. If the
steering is inaccurate and the car requires correction - it's worn,
Land Rovers did not leave the factory like that!

The ride is firm compared to a car - that's normal. If the ride feels
harsh and bouncy (as opposed to hard) - that's the dampers at fault.
If heavy duty dampers have been fitted to a 90 the ride becomes harsh,
even uncontrolled.

A little bit of electrolytic corrosion is normal on the door bottoms
where the aluminium meets steel. This shows up a bubbles in the metal
and is caused by road salt reacting with the steel and aluminium.
Unless the skin is holed it's just cosmetic and can be treated. Also
check the body carefully - the cappings and fixings corrode, e.g. look
at the screws that fix the doors to the body - if they look crusty it
indicates that the car might have had a hard life. Also look at the
rear chassis crossmember, flaking paint is OK, but anything else is
going to cost £7-800 to replace - very important if you're towing
heavy loads. Also it's really important to check the bulkhead (between
the front wing and front door)- this is made of steel and rusts - check
above the door mirror mount for flaky metal - on a car of this age it
should nit be rusty, if it is - walk away.

As a tow car it's awesome! Maybe a little bouncy because of the short
wheelbase, but perfectly man for the job of towing up to 3.5 tonnes.

Happy looking!

 
wow. thanks so much for the thorough response. one other question.
i'm a bit of an amateur backyard mechanic. are the standard parts
(water pumps, belts, oil filters, etc.) easily accessible and available
at any autoshop or does one need to deal with the dealer for these
things.

thanks again!

 
On or around 28 Mar 2006 07:12:54 -0800, "[email protected]"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>wow. thanks so much for the thorough response. one other question.
>i'm a bit of an amateur backyard mechanic. are the standard parts
>(water pumps, belts, oil filters, etc.) easily accessible and available
>at any autoshop or does one need to deal with the dealer for these
>things.


We've a resident spares supplier in this group... name of Richard - Beamends
LR spares; and there's always Paddock motors as well.

Sundry others, an' all.
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from the strawbuilt shed, The cock's shrill clarion, or the echoing
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Austin Shackles wrote:
> On or around 28 Mar 2006 07:12:54 -0800, "[email protected]"
> <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>
>> wow. thanks so much for the thorough response. one other question.
>> i'm a bit of an amateur backyard mechanic. are the standard parts
>> (water pumps, belts, oil filters, etc.) easily accessible and
>> available at any autoshop or does one need to deal with the dealer
>> for these things.

>
> We've a resident spares supplier in this group... name of Richard -
> Beamends LR spares; and there's always Paddock motors as well.
>
> Sundry others, an' all.


Remember that we have international posters here ;-)

Huw


 
>wow. thanks so much for the thorough response. one other question.
>i'm a bit of an amateur backyard mechanic. are the standard parts
>(water pumps, belts, oil filters, etc.) easily accessible and available
>at any autoshop or does one need to deal with the dealer for these
>things.


>thanks again!


No problems - you're welcome! I have have been looking myself
(successfully this weekend) and own a 90 V8 already.
The 4.0 V8 engine is really easy to work on and there are many
suppliers who can sell you original spec and original equipment parts
at reasonable prices - and will mail order all over the world! Land
Rovers are easy to work on too with 'meccano' construction and long
lived engine (40 years in production).

I hope the car is good - but don't be tempted to buy on the basis that
50th anniversarys are really rare. They are, but you'll always find
half a dozen on sale - so if you're not sure......!

 
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