The rust bug my series 3 has got holes

Hi all,

Decided to install spotlights on the front of my Series 3, round circular
ones, make it look nice. Sadly, I took off the front cover (In front of the
radiator) to make sure I made the wiring look neat and discovered a rust
hole in the chassis on top, left hand side (sitting in drivers seat), This
is where the chassis joins the bumper,

Some questions:

1. Is this an MOT failure
2. What thickness metal do I have to weld it with (I have 1.5 mm and 3 mm)
3. Must it be seam welded.

I will of course use weldable zinc coat before welding and afterwards use
bitumen black with waxoyl. I will then soak the inside with waxoyl.

Yours

Andrew

Landie is

Series 3, 88 inch, 7 seater, 1983 on a Y plate.

I hope you understood that the hole is nowhere near the drivers seat, it is
on the left when you are sitting in it, and is in the section of the chassis
where the chassis meets the front bumper.

A

"Andrew Renshaw" <andrew.hart.i hate [email protected]> wrote in message
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> Hi all,
>
> Decided to install spotlights on the front of my Series 3, round circular
> ones, make it look nice. Sadly, I took off the front cover (In front of
> the radiator) to make sure I made the wiring look neat and discovered a
> rust hole in the chassis on top, left hand side (sitting in drivers seat),
> This is where the chassis joins the bumper,
>
> Some questions:
>
> 1. Is this an MOT failure
> 2. What thickness metal do I have to weld it with (I have 1.5 mm and 3 mm)
> 3. Must it be seam welded.
>
> I will of course use weldable zinc coat before welding and afterwards use
> bitumen black with waxoyl. I will then soak the inside with waxoyl.
>
> Yours
>
> Andrew
>
> Landie is
>
> Series 3, 88 inch, 7 seater, 1983 on a Y plate.
>

"Andrew Renshaw" <andrew.hart.i hate [email protected]> wrote in message
news:%[email protected]...
> Hi all,
>
> Decided to install spotlights on the front of my Series 3, round circular
> ones, make it look nice. Sadly, I took off the front cover (In front of
the
> radiator) to make sure I made the wiring look neat and discovered a rust
> hole in the chassis on top, left hand side (sitting in drivers seat), This
> is where the chassis joins the bumper,
>
> Some questions:
>
> 1. Is this an MOT failure
> 2. What thickness metal do I have to weld it with (I have 1.5 mm and 3 mm)
> 3. Must it be seam welded.
>
> I will of course use weldable zinc coat before welding and afterwards use
> bitumen black with waxoyl. I will then soak the inside with waxoyl.


Yes its a failure point. As Tom's said, you wan't to take the bumper off.
The bolts will probably be seized up, best to use a cold chisel or nut
splitter on the nuts underneath. Grinding off the heads will not help you...
There's nearly always some rust under the bumper too. Once thats removed,
its only a few hours work. Attack with a gringer and cut some plates. Just
clean up the surface of the metal you want to weld too with a light grind,
after chopping out the rot. Ideal steel plate is about 2mm, 3mm will be
fine. Everything on the chassis should be seamed, doing it any other way is
a bodge I'm afraid, and it will give you trouble later on.

All the best
Andy

Andy and Andrew Hi,

Browsing through the classifieds of this month's LROI I found this very
interesting site
www.zingauk.co.uk

It appears like this stuff is used for painting sea water submerged items
(if you can call a submarine or bridge foundations an item)

Have not tried it yet but with my house and the landies parked right in
front of the sea this is meant to happen pretty soon.

Hope this will be useful to you and the fellow listmembers.

Take care
Pantelis

"Andy Warner" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> "Andrew Renshaw" <andrew.hart.i hate [email protected]> wrote in message
> news:%[email protected]...
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Decided to install spotlights on the front of my Series 3, round
circular
> > ones, make it look nice. Sadly, I took off the front cover (In front of
> the
> > radiator) to make sure I made the wiring look neat and discovered a rust
> > hole in the chassis on top, left hand side (sitting in drivers seat),
This
> > is where the chassis joins the bumper,
> >
> > Some questions:
> >
> > 1. Is this an MOT failure
> > 2. What thickness metal do I have to weld it with (I have 1.5 mm and 3
mm)
> > 3. Must it be seam welded.
> >
> > I will of course use weldable zinc coat before welding and afterwards
use
> > bitumen black with waxoyl. I will then soak the inside with waxoyl.
>
>
> Yes its a failure point. As Tom's said, you wan't to take the bumper off.
> The bolts will probably be seized up, best to use a cold chisel or nut
> splitter on the nuts underneath. Grinding off the heads will not help
you...
> There's nearly always some rust under the bumper too. Once thats removed,
> its only a few hours work. Attack with a gringer and cut some plates. Just
> clean up the surface of the metal you want to weld too with a light grind,
> after chopping out the rot. Ideal steel plate is about 2mm, 3mm will be
> fine. Everything on the chassis should be seamed, doing it any other way
is
> a bodge I'm afraid, and it will give you trouble later on.
>
> All the best
> Andy
>
>

It will be an MOT failure, had the same prob myself, if you have a hole in
the chassis, fix it , it will not get better.



--
Larry
Series 3 rust and holes


"Andrew Renshaw" <andrew.hart.i hate [email protected]> wrote in message
news:%[email protected]...
> Hi all,
>
> Decided to install spotlights on the front of my Series 3, round circular
> ones, make it look nice. Sadly, I took off the front cover (In front of
the
> radiator) to make sure I made the wiring look neat and discovered a rust
> hole in the chassis on top, left hand side (sitting in drivers seat), This
> is where the chassis joins the bumper,
>
> Some questions:
>
> 1. Is this an MOT failure
> 2. What thickness metal do I have to weld it with (I have 1.5 mm and 3 mm)
> 3. Must it be seam welded.
>
> I will of course use weldable zinc coat before welding and afterwards use
> bitumen black with waxoyl. I will then soak the inside with waxoyl.
>
> Yours
>
> Andrew
>
> Landie is
>
> Series 3, 88 inch, 7 seater, 1983 on a Y plate.
>
>