TD5 oil pump gone???

Eagle13 said:

Thanks mate..... Can I just ask whether the engine would run? Or what would be the symptoms of big end failure other than a visual inspection just out of curiosity? I am gunna ring him today and ask him as I think he's still waiting for the new pump assembly to arrive.....Is it just as simple as pulling a cap off to inspect it?

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It should be.

They are usually the first thing to go on oil starvation, but if the mains are OK, and the big end journals are OK but the mains bearing sheel slightly scored, new mains MAY be enough.

Yes just pull a cap off to inspect it.

The idea of inspecting the big ends is to see how badly the engine was starved of oil, if they are shot then the chances are the cams, followers, & turbo may also be knackered.

No clue if it would run because I don't know what state it's in, but I think the consensus is that it's probably not best to try it...

If the shells are goosed you can basically seize the engine/shear the crank, which would then banjax the rest of it and it would go bang or just stop forever more.

So boys we have an update 8 weeks on!!! After a mix up from the supplier of the oil pump ar Lenny has been picked up today.... Sounds sweet as a nut..... Looks like we've avoided major disaster!!! For anyone experiencing anything similar it's had a brand new oil pump fitted as the teeth sheared inside the other pump...at a cost of £340 vat inc new oil, filters, sump gasket, track rod end as one was knackered + labour at a total cost of £560.....which I thought was reasonable and he even put us a new mirror in wing mirror as one was cracked and had the car washed for us well pleased. The Landy lives on!!!

Good to follow the updates and great result.......

But........he washed a Defender!!!! Aaaaarghhhh A

last one i fixed the oil pump on a few days later turbo went then big end

agew said:

Good to follow the updates and great result.......

But........he washed a Defender!!!! Aaaaarghhhh A

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but...... its a disco, ;-)

Hi all, sorry to hijack this thread slightly, but I have a question and it would seem to fit in well here.

I've had my Td5 since March, I've done a few things like water pump, blank egr and de-cease the wastegate actuator (plus new chassis), its on 110000 ish atm, and I wondered if you'd recommend checking the oil pump bolt as having been reading up on here they maybe an issue? Or if its done this many miles without probs am I in the clear?

Have you all checked yours when you first bought them as a matter of course?

Many thanks, Jas

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Gottschalk said:

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I have 116000 mls on my Defender TD5 and I keep on reading these threads, it gives me something else to worry about.
Just for peace of mind I must get around to checking mine.
You imagine after 100000 mls the maybe yours is one of the engines with a Loctite style bolt fitted, but then you read of some failing after very long mileage and it starts you wondering again.

Exactly my thoughts!
I think I'll give mine a check next oil change, just for peace of mind! Good luck with yours, and "no worries"

Gottschalk said:

Exactly my thoughts!
I think I'll give mine a check next oil change, just for peace of mind! Good luck with yours, and "no worries"

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You too,
I'm making a plan to drop the sump pan and check the bolt, come spring time, may take the opportunity to take off a big end and main bearing shell just to take a look at the condition, or maybe that would just open up another can of worry.

raywin said:

You too,
I'm making a plan to drop the sump pan and check the bolt, come spring time, may take the opportunity to take off a big end and main bearing shell just to take a look at the condition, or maybe that would just open up another can of worry.

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There must be some record from the production line to indicate which engine numbers were affected by this?
I've got the bits - bolt/gaskets/sealant... but now recovering from a wrist fracture... am happy to have managed a filter and oil change. I think it would be easier to drop the sump with use of a ramp or pit... a job that will just have to wait - nervous eye on the oil pressure warning light (amongst other things) in the mean time!!

The Gribbin said:

There must be some record from the production line to indicate which engine numbers were affected by this?
I've got the bits - bolt/gaskets/sealant... but now recovering from a wrist fracture... am happy to have managed a filter and oil change. I think it would be easier to drop the sump with use of a ramp or pit... a job that will just have to wait - nervous eye on the oil pressure warning light (amongst other things) in the mean time!!

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I have the feeling that LR wont share this information because they don't want to acknowledge that the problem exists, I remember a campaign by Watchdog on the BBC to get them to admit they had a problem, but if they did then it would open the door to many claims, most of which have huge consequential damage. I believe that European rules say that there is no statute on problems which are inherent as opposed to warranty failures due to quality problems.

Looks like my sumps coming off tho Sunday, if the Mrs doesn't rope me into crimbo shopping that is!