Disco 2 TD5 2004 just broken down

Just driving my daughter to school and the engine stopped and the power steering went. Fortunately 25m from school so managed to coast over to the lay-by. All electrics ok, ignition ok but it won't start.

Any thoughts? I live in France and am waiting for a recovery vehicle, it's ****ing down and he'll tow it to a local garage.

Any warning lights before it went? Any odd noises?
Can you hear the fuel pump when you turn the ignition on?

davidsmith1307 said:

Any warning lights before it went? Any odd noises?
Can you hear the fuel pump when you turn the ignition on?

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No lights, no noises and hi can hear a slight whine from the back. The pump was replaced last year.

it's a shame I'm not a bit closer..hope your local garage is reasonable. they do know how to charge down here! Is your battery up to strength & is the motor turning over? what amount of fuel is in the tank? I lent my Discovery Td5 to someone the other day and had the 'phone call.....it's just stopped. He'd ran it low on fuel, and I had to go through the purge cycle a couple of times and off it went. When was the fuel filter replaced?

Is it turning over and not starting?
mark

That happened to me once years ago in an MG Maestro. I'd gone over a bump and the inertia switch had tripped. Worth a quick look.....

markomate2 said:

Is it turning over and not starting?
mark

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Correct, local French garage look mystified

iansoady said:

That happened to me once years ago in an MG Maestro. I'd gone over a bump and the inertia switch had tripped. Worth a quick look.....

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I'll get them to try that one, cheers

They've hooked it up to a laptop and the dash looks like this. Also the auto m and s lights are flashing, can't be normal.

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Bignose said:

it's a shame I'm not a bit closer..hope your local garage is reasonable. they do know how to charge down here! Is your battery up to strength & is the motor turning over? what amount of fuel is in the tank? I lent my Discovery Td5 to someone the other day and had the 'phone call.....it's just stopped. He'd ran it low on fuel, and I had to go through the purge cycle a couple of times and off it went. When was the fuel filter replaced?

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Hi bignose, the fuel tank is in the last quarter, not near the bottom no empty light, which does work. Battery ok, the ignition sequence works but it doesn't fire. It does seem to be fuel related.
I'll go through the previous owners receipts and see if he did the filter.

Cheers

Add more fuel, maybe the float thing is not well calibrated. Then do the purge procedure: floor the pedal five times.

fellipe said:

Add more fuel, maybe the float thing is not well calibrated. Then do the purge procedure: floor the pedal five times.

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That has been playing on my mind. Worth a shot, Thanks

Hmm, they reckon it's the fuel pump. It was only replaced last July (a bearmach part) by the previous owner. He fitted it not a garage, what's the chances of that failing so soon. Mind you he replaced the brake discs and callipers on one the rear wheels last year that cost me €300 to repair one wheel.

M and S lights flashing are often caused by a low battery. The D2 needs a minimum voltage for everything to work properly. It might be worth trying (a) another battery (b) giving yours a good external charge.

When you say "hooked up to a laptop" is the display you show when it's hooked up? If it's not proper D2 diagnostics you may get all sorts of weird results.

iansoady said:

M and S lights flashing are often caused by a low battery. The D2 needs a minimum voltage for everything to work properly. It might be worth trying (a) another battery (b) giving yours a good external charge.

When you say "hooked up to a laptop" is the display you show when it's hooked up? If it's not proper D2 diagnostics you may get all sorts of weird results.

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I had that once, had to drive for 5 minutes before I could restart the car and clear the codes.

Ok story so far. The car is in a garage in Lacapelle Marival not far from me. They swore blind it was the field pump. I pointed out it was replaced by the previous owner in August last year, I've got a copy of the purchase invoice. Admittedly he replaced it himself, he's seemed to be quite a competent home mechanic, although he did cock up one of the brake callipers on a rear wheel.

The garage were insistent that it was the pump and wanted to charge me €800 to fix it. €600 parts and €200 labour. I mentioned that I could get it cheaper and managed to source a VDO replacement one in Germany for €148 inc shipping which was damn cheap.

That took 7 days to get here. It arrived last Thursday and they fitted it yesterday (Tuesday). They started the car and it conked out again. The called a Land Rover Dealership who said that they need to calibrate the injectors. They did that today without success. Again it started and conked out.

I'm going in to see them tomorrow afternoon as they want to see me. So more later.

Thanks for the info, feel better for that.

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I had that once, had to drive for 5 minutes before I could restart the car and clear the codes.

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How long does it run for? How well does it run before it conks?
It needs fuel, air, pressure and heat to run. Not likely to run out of air, pressure or heat if it actually runs a bit.
Air in the fuel lines? Fuel filter? New VDO pump should be good.

Okey dokey, back from the garage.
It conked out after an hour. The guys couldn't calibrate the injectors as the previous owner had apparently calibrated them to the max when replacing the pump last year. Seems he had also made a mess of replacing the 'o' rings as well as there was diesel in the oil.

They are going to take out the injectors and send them to a Land Rover dealership to test and we'll take it from there.

Fuel is obviously reaching the injectors as it ran for an hour.

Does this sound plausible?

IMO find others who know theyr job and how electronic unit injectors are working cos these are a bunch of schmucks, that injector "calibration" thing sounds boll*x to me