TD4 serious stall at 30 mph

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fascinationyacht

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I have an 8 year old freelander TD4 with the BMW engine and manual gearbox. I stalled the engine badly at 30 mph in a long curve due to a distraction and had to stop. (my fault....I know I know)
I think something broke.
When I started the engine... it sounded like the exhaust had come adrift or like the 'early diesel enginessounded' that loud clatter on tickover.... but..... when I gave it a few revs (above 1800) it clears and sounds normal (ish)
Lifting the bonnet the noise seems to be coming from the fan belt end of the engine (It is LHD). No lights come up on the dashboard. She runs fine and has the same power. But now, at traffic lights it is very noisy on tickover.
I do not want to drive it like this, but daily rely on her
Help is needed please.
What can it be?
Any suggestions would be welcome
 
The pulley seems to be intact. It has been replaced a few months back and at that time I had no steering assistance. I have no problems with the steering after the stall.
Thanks for your input
 
Did something similar with l series engine. Jumped a tooth on cam belt and smashed cam followers which blew up my engine a few weeks later.

Yours is chain though... So wouldn't have jumped anything and you would notice the difference in driving
 
sounds like the anti-vibration pulley piece of crap.

For those who don't know, its two bits of metal with a rubber damper in between them. The rubber splits leading to the banging noise that the OP can hear.

I get a free ride from Essex when mine failed as the RAC dude thought it was something smashed internally :)
 
Thankyou Vertuas.... That fits the symptoms perfectly.... The local garage here in Tenerife wants the equivalent of 360 pounds, just for the part !!!! Needless to say that I have seen them for a lot less on the net. Can you direct me to a part number whether it be Landrover or BMW....I have tried all the resources that I know. Thanks a lot for coming back to me so soon.. Nice one. Kind Regards MIKE
 
Vertuas said:
sounds like the anti-vibration pulley piece of crap.

For those who don't know, its two bits of metal with a rubber damper in between them. The rubber splits leading to the banging noise that the OP can hear.

I get a free ride from Essex when mine failed as the RAC dude thought it was something smashed internally :)
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Although the crank pulley does fail by de-laminating it's a vital part of the engine. It is fitted to remove crank torsional vibrations. So if the damper pulley wasn't there the crank shaft would fail from fatigue very quickly. The damper pulley failing is a sure sign it's doing exactly what it was designed to do.
 
fascinationyacht said:
Thankyou Vertuas.... That fits the symptoms perfectly.... The local garage here in Tenerife wants the equivalent of 360 pounds, just for the part !!!! Needless to say that I have seen them for a lot less on the net. Can you direct me to a part number whether it be Landrover or BMW....I have tried all the resources that I know. Thanks a lot for coming back to me so soon.. Nice one. Kind Regards MIKE
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Hi guys
Just a postscript on progress
I ordered the pulley direct from an English firm..
Guaranteed original part for 65 pounds plus shipping (ouch ouch plus import tax another ouch)
When it came I realised it was two second hand parts (inner and outer) with rubber replaced between them !!!
SO....TECHNICALLY....It was an original part.
This is something that I could not fit myself so I had to use a garage. They complained bitterly about it but wanted to charge 500 euros for a LR part....
It has been a year and is beginning to clatter,.....so be warned
Mike
 
Do not buy reconditioned ones always buy new I made a tool up for holding the pulley while you get the bolt out but it is not in production yet I am waiting for a tool company to get back to me as they are interested in it.
 
flat said:
How on earth do you stalk at 30mph while driving round a corner?
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Wife has a bad habit of lugging the engine in too high a gear round a bend. If I happen to be in the passenger seat, my solution is to gently tap her gearstick hand. When this elicits a downshift, I pop a travel sweet in her mouth.

I highly recommend this technique.
 
Something must be up with it.

I can go round a roundabout in 5th in my LR 90....

Does she have no clue it's about to stall? Not sure I would let my other half drive if she can't get the basics right.
 
flat said:
Does she have no clue it's about to stall? Not sure I would let my other half drive if she can't get the basics right.
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I have explained that labouring the engine like this means low revs, which means low oil pressure just when the shell bearings are under load and therefore need most lubrication. This appears to pass between her ears and out the window.

Hence the reward training, technically known as 'operant conditioning'.
 
guineafowl21 said:
I have explained that labouring the engine like this means low revs, which means low oil pressure just when the shell bearings are under load and therefore need most lubrication. This appears to pass between her ears and out the window.

Hence the reward training, technically known as 'operant conditioning'.
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Maybe explain it more simply.

'If you don't use a lower gear at slower speeds you will stall on a corner, cause a crash and hurt people'

She probably doesn't give a **** about shell bearings.
 
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