TD/TDi starter motor

Langers · Jul 10, 2010

Hello chaps and chappettes, doing a tdi conversion on my 110 as some of you may know, one thing I've got to sort out is the starter motor. The starter on the TDi was intermittent before I removed the engine, but the starter on the TD (19j) was fine up until I stopped using the car 10 months ago. Can I bolt the starter from the TD onto the TDi or is it different?

Cheers

taffi_jj · Jul 10, 2010

i am very sure they can be swapped. i am surprised there is not a thread on here that has not covered it???

Langers · Jul 10, 2010

Cheers,

yeah same here, did a search couldn't find anything definitive. How sure are you? Have you done it before yourself?

Langers · Jul 10, 2010

No worries, just had a look on Paddocks, the starter motor for a the 2.5td is the same part number as for the 200 tdi Disco motor, so I think I should be safe

that's saved me a few quid

taffi_jj · Jul 10, 2010

yea did put a 200tdi in place of my 19j and the 200 decided to eat its bottom end within 50 miles. grr! i used the starter from my 19j seem to remember it fitted fine!
just wish i had stripped the 200 and checked everything before putting it al in.

oh well i am not too bitter

lol

fancy swapping yours for a pack of haribo? LOL!!!

Langers · Jul 10, 2010

taffi_jj said:
yea did put a 200tdi in place of my 19j and the 200 decided to eat its bottom end within 50 miles. grr! i used the starter from my 19j seem to remember it fitted fine!
just wish i had stripped the 200 and checked everything before putting it al in.

oh well i am not too bitterlol

fancy swapping yours for a pack of haribo? LOL!!!

Ahhh, that's got to hurt... hope mine don't do that

Did you buy the Tdi on its own or did you have it in a Disco before and try it out??

gcoo8154 · Jul 10, 2010

how is that tdi conversion of yours coming on now then langers?

Langers · Jul 10, 2010

gcoo8154 said:
how is that tdi conversion of yours coming on now then langers?

Gcoo me old mate,

yeah I've finally actually started doing it, been really really busy last couple months, but I'm well and truly stuck in now, with the cuts bruises and smashed knuckle to prove it

TDi comes out the Disco tomorrow, and then I'm waiting for my rear crank oil seal to arrive before I drop it into the beast, connect everything up and hope it works and doesn't blow up like the bloke aboves

Hows you, anyway?

taffi_jj · Jul 10, 2010

Langers said:
Ahhh, that's got to hurt... hope mine don't do that

Did you buy the Tdi on its own or did you have it in a Disco before and try it out??

well i was stupid and bought the engine off a "Mate" who said it was good,

needless to say when i went back he said it was my fault, not so much of a mate.... lesson learned.

Langers · Jul 10, 2010

taffi_jj said:
well i was stupid and bought the engine off a "Mate" who said it was good,

needless to say when i went back he said it was my fault, not so much of a mate.... lesson learned.

Hmm, I guess at least you know how to do it quickly and easily now and you've got all your conversion bits and bobs if you were to do it again... that's why I avoided buying an engine on its own as I needed to be sure my injun was a good'un before I went ahead with it...

I would rather have a f***ed Tdi than a f***ed TD any day though!

taffi_jj · Jul 10, 2010

Langers said:
Hmm, I guess at least you know how to do it quickly and easily now and you've got all your conversion bits and bobs if you were to do it again... that's why I avoided buying an engine on its own as I needed to be sure my injun was a good'un before I went ahead with it...

I would rather have a f***ed Tdi than a f***ed TD any day though!

you say that. but mine gave up, on the motorway,
even a F***ed td can pull you on to the hard sholder (JUST) but the 200 i had would not even turn over, so the motorway is a scary place for a 110 with no engine....

still, on the bright side, it was a very nice 50 miles of economic powerful, and quiet driving.

Langers · Jul 10, 2010

taffi_jj said:
you say that. but mine gave up, on the motorway,
even a F***ed td can pull you on to the hard sholder (JUST) but the 200 i had would not even turn over, so the motorway is a scary place for a 110 with no engine....

still, on the bright side, it was a very nice 50 miles of economic powerful, and quiet driving.

Just think how hard it would have been to walk those 50 miles, and you'll feel a lot better lol.

taffi_jj · Jul 10, 2010

i put the td back in, never thought i would be happy to hear the tired old lump. limp into life. lol.

would deffo recommend the transplant, transforms the experience, but i wont do it again for a while, once bitten.......

Langers · Jul 10, 2010

taffi_jj said:
i put the td back in, never thought i would be happy to hear the tired old lump. limp into life. lol.

would deffo recommend the transplant, transforms the experience, but i wont do it again for a while, once bitten.......

Hah. At least you had that option, I won't. Mine is dead, literally, dead. I drove it for about 400 miles with the oil looking like Hellmann's finest, the temperature gauge off the scale (head was already cracked and leaking water into the oil), shut her off for the night and came back in the morning to find it seized solid. Was thinking about making the block into some sort of coffee table; maybe bolt an inch thick sheet of perspex to the top, would be a pretty damn nice table, and more use than the TD ever was in the 'fender.

taffi_jj · Jul 10, 2010

lol. that would be one cool table! better than all those v8 ones.

plus i am sure it will be fun beating the pistons out of the block.

i have found that barring the epic failiure of the 200 that landrovers soldier on to get you home..

i am current mill. and the desert kills lansdrovers every day, but had one that limped home, parked up, conked out. the gearbox had siezed and turbo had cracked. but managed to get us home before dying a heroes death.

Langers · Jul 11, 2010

Right... got another question for you lot to answer and laugh at me

As I said before, the TD engine is out and has been stripped of all its useful bits, but I'm having trouble getting the TDI out. I've taken all the bellhousing bolts/nuts that I can reach from underneath, but there's no way I can reach the ones around the top.

I've taken the engine mounting bolts out, but I can only lower the engine about 2 inches before it stops, hitting on the corner of the steering box and on something else on the other side

It seems almost impossible to get the engine out cause the mounts seem to stop you from moving the engine forwards and backwards???

Could really use some help... losing the will to live a little haha

taffi_jj · Jul 11, 2010

have you tried removing the mounts from the engine? 3 bolts each side. gives more freedom....

Langers · Jul 11, 2010

taffi_jj said:
have you tried removing the mounts from the engine? 3 bolts each side. gives more freedom....

Nope will give that a go tomorrow. Hope it's not too awkward

taffi_jj · Jul 11, 2010

its a land rover, things are never awkward.

oh wait!!!:doh:

try taking the head off the old, may give you easier access to the bolts.

Langers · Jul 11, 2010

taffi_jj said:
its a land rover, things are never awkward.

oh wait!!!:doh:

try taking the head off the old, may give you easier access to the bolts.

Old one TD is out already if that's what you mean. Came out easily, I just took up the removable floor panels inside to get at the top bellhousing. Disco one is a one-piece moulded floor, would have to angle grind a hole in it.

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