Swivel ball lubricant

I have fitted 2 new swivel balls, should I use EP 90 oil, or grease pack supplied with ball kits

up to you! Oil was the original lubricant specified inthe manual but one shot Grease lasts longer as it wont leak as quick past the seal if/when it does start to go (I put grease in mine when I did them, havent been on the road yet with it though)

Series swivels, as they have no top roller bearing and therefore the top pin needs to be splash lubricated, which can't be done with one shot grease...

EP90 as^^^^ For top railko lube. I have modified my top swivel pin to be greaseable for peace of mind on one side where I have to use one shot due to poor swivel ball condition.

I used one-shot, after a 2 and a half years and 20 odd thousand miles they're still good and preload is ok. I do have to engage the free wheeling hubs every month or so to fling the stuff around and I inject a shot of EP90 each year when I do a service. I suspect that your experience will depend on how frequently used your motor is...no good it being full of ep90 if you never run it or you never engage FWH's the top bush will still be dry whereas the grease is more likely to cling on....

I was sat on the fence so filled two thirds one shot and one third ep90.

I'm sure the one shot splashes well enough - it will thin out when warm and is still surprisingly still gloopy thin when cold

Always worth having an experiment going ...

Keep an eye on it though guys ...

I will not be doing alot of miles, so feel i will go with EP90, as this is in the axle. If it is relying on splash lubrication, surley oil will be better.

Would they not be a risk of cross contamination if axle seal failed.

I have had seal fail and cross contamination.

divie said:

I have had seal fail and cross contamination.

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On the plus side, when you're diff oil turns grey, you know the seals on its way out

EP90. The standard universal joint in the Series front end won't lubricate all that well with the one-shot grease. That was originally specified for the RRC which had open CV joints in the front swivels - a very different proposition to the old U-joint.

I've never run anything else in my IIA 109 and after over 100K miles the u-joints are still good as new (some mileage with free-wheeling hubs, much without).

ajr

i use half a tube of one shot in each swivel, then add ep to make up the difference. never had an issue. one shot, when it gets hot is similar to ep anyway, and when its cold it sticks to everything much better then the ep does, the ep just runs off the surfaces when hot.

its not swivels but still, the steering box on my 2a had a slight leak on it, i drained some of the ep out, and topped the rest up with one shot. no leak and its much smoother to turn now!

mrchurchill109 said:

EP90. The standard universal joint in the Series front end won't lubricate all that well with the one-shot grease. That was originally specified for the RRC which had open CV joints in the front swivels - a very different proposition to the old U-joint.

I've never run anything else in my IIA 109 and after over 100K miles the u-joints are still good as new (some mileage with free-wheeling hubs, much without).

ajr

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I'm surprised my prop UJ's have lasted than long then. They are only greased with a gun periodically.

Land Raver said:

I'm surprised my prop UJ's have lasted than long then. They are only greased with a gun periodically.

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Prop UJs are greased under pressure with a non-liquid lubricant, then are sealed with rubber boots on the joins to retain it.

Swivel UJs are not greased, and the bottoms of the cups are open for lube to run in. Bit of a different proposition.

ajr