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Howie54

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Here is something to get your teeth into. About a month ago I noticed that my P38 diesel was not changing gear at the same rev range as it had been and not locking the torque converter up . So spent a few hours looking through Rave and came to the conclusion I needed to get the fault codes read. I now have my very own Hawkeye. Now things should be easy. Plugged it in and found no faults with the gear box and one fault code 136 with the engine this is the 4th injector lift sensor. Anyway I have had the Hawkeye plugged in reading engine live data for a couple of days and found something strange. When the engine is cold it ticks over at about 1000rpm for a few seconds then drops to about 750rpm. Hawkeye reads -39 deg boots temp ( I think this indicated open circuit ) and engine temp of 17deg. Engine temp rises and car drive fine. Now for the interesting bit. At 50mph the torque converter locks up as it should engine temp on dash reads normal, about half way round the gauge. The temp on Hawkeye reads 60deg ish then the gearbox unlocks the torque converter and the Hawkeye shows engine temp to be 20deg. Tick over is now 1000rpm and gear changes are at about 3500rpm. Next set of lights and the tick over is 1200rpm and Hawkeye engine temp is -2deg. Dash gauge is still reading normal so the Hawkeye is reading something else. Question is what is it reading. I have driven the car with the Hawkeye attached and there is a definite connection between the engine temp the Hawkeye is reading and the tick over . It’s as if the engine thinks it’s under load when the Hawkeye engine temp is low. The lower the tem the higher the tick over and gear change revs. The Hawkeye engine temp alters up and down between -2deg and 72deg as you drive and at the higher temps the gear box acts as it should. Any one got ant idea’s.
Many thanks
Howard:eek:
 
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ECU temp sensor faulty probably. That is the only thing that will cause idle fluctuation if it's reading wrong. Think you maybe better with a dedicated diag set than an Hawkeye.
 
If it is like the V8's there are two temp senders - one for the gauge and one for the ECU's....

Gauge sender reads true
ECU sender reads erronous!!

EDIT: Beaten to it by The Wammer....(again :D)

He said it was a doozel Ant. They also have two sensors. I know you have problems with your gas guzzler but try to pay attention. :):):D:D:D
 
Also, reading boost temperature at -32ºC is a common fault with the Hawkeye. Mine and others do exactly the same thing. Just wish I had found out before getting a new boost temperature sensor :(
 
Thanks gentlemen I’ll have a look tonight and see where it is. I changed the boost temp gauge also but it did need changing as it looked like a rat had gnawed it. Also changed the MAP sensor. Thought that may have been stuck reading high. We live and learn! Just wish I didn’t like the car so much.

Cheers
Howard :eek:
 
If it is like the V8's there are two temp senders - one for the gauge and one for the ECU's....

Gauge sender reads true
ECU sender reads erronous!!

EDIT: Beaten to it by The Wammer....(again :D)

He said it was a doozel Ant. They also have two sensors. I know you have problems with your gas guzzler but try to pay attention. :):):D:D:D
If you re-read my post Tony, you'll see I say 'If it is like the V8's there are two ......'

So try to pay attention...:D:D:D:D:D:D:D
 
Well I found the sensor for the ECU and disconnected it. That made things a whole lot worse so it's re connected and a new one on order.
Thanks for all the help guys.:dance:
Howard
 
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