Springys...

jmattley · May 21, 2009

I know theres lots of threads on here about the subject and YES I have done a fookin search

, but just to clarify, my springs are hard as fook, but I'm a student and a cheapskate, so...
Instead of buying paras, would I just be best to strip em, clean em and grease em?
i have also heard that ****e then sticks to the grease between em and wears em down. Could I get passed that problem by rapping them in cling film or something like that to keep them greasy?

Apologies if it sounds silly.

Cheers.

Rogan · May 21, 2009

Service manual says degrease em, not grease em.

rustyrhinos · May 21, 2009

I seem to recall reading/someone telling me that in the army the used to grease them up and cover them in something.

The Mad Hat Man · May 21, 2009

rustyrhinos said:
I seem to recall reading/someone telling me that in the army the used to grease them up and cover them in something.

I was told to wrap em in clingfilm and pour old engine oil inside the package and leave it to soak for a week, so that the oil can seep into all the nooks and crannies.

iannotts · May 21, 2009

The Mad Hat Man said:
I was told to wrap em in clingfilm and pour old engine oil inside the package and leave it to soak for a week, so that the oil can seep into all the nooks and crannies.

Then drive it down the bumpyest road you can find repeatedly to break all the rust then oil em again

jmattley · May 21, 2009

Fair enough! So it's not worth stripping the leaves apart then? Just grease and oil wrapped in cling film going rapidly over speed bumps then?

The Mad Hat Man · May 21, 2009

dont think yu can - arent they riveted together?

Mseries3 · May 21, 2009

The Mad Hat Man said:
dont think yu can - arent they riveted together?

Nope, look here Leaf Spring Disassembly - One Laugh Have It! The land Rover Forum To Be On

(No i am not trying to cause trouble of ANY kind ffs, just trying to be helpful..)

Sean · May 21, 2009

rustyrhinos said:
I seem to recall reading/someone telling me that in the army the used to grease them up and cover them in something.

the engine oil, used or un-used and cling film trick works - but you do have to make the springs work hard as it's no good leaving it parked up while it's soaking in

then cover them with the thickest gooyest grease you can find - wrap them in some sort of heavy fabric hessian/canvas - cut it into 2" strips and spiral wrap it - and paint the entire spring (over the wrapped covering) with engine oil once a month

Sean · May 21, 2009

jmattley said:
Fair enough! So it's not worth stripping the leaves apart then? Just grease and oil wrapped in cling film going rapidly over speed bumps then?

if they are really bad - but not gotten to the stage where they have sagged - you can knock off the two clamp straps, drift out the retaining pin that MHM thinks is a rivet and give them a good clean with an abasive wheel

and then wrap and oil

jmattley · May 21, 2009

Reeto, cheers everyone, so to sum up:
take off springs,
take out pin in clamp straps to get the leaves apart,
wire brush etc,
grease and oil to fook,
reassemble,
more grease,
wrap in cloth,
paint over cloth. (what paint, hammerite?)

Have a brew.

Missed anything?

90truckcab · May 21, 2009

yeah , if yer want to strip them its easy enough, clean them with a wire wheel , grease them then cover them in denso tape, that **** sticks to everythin , holds in the grease too and keeps out the grit and mud

90truckcab · May 21, 2009

nope not hammerite fer springs, underseals, or something flexable, hammerite cracks as its enamell ,

jmattley · May 21, 2009

Reeto, I assume you mean wrap round the springs once re assembled yeah?

Sorry for the silly questions, I like to be sure!

90truckcab · May 21, 2009

yep , once assembled and yer happy with them , wrap them up . ( like yer mean it ) !!

jmattley · May 21, 2009

Will do! What kind of time I'm I looking at for each end do you reckon as it's me daily drive!

jmattley · May 21, 2009

Also, meant to say, how much of a difference will it make to the ride and articulation? As at the minute they're you're typical 27 year old really firm jobs.

90truckcab · May 21, 2009

depends how easy they come off , they can take awt from 20 mins to get off to two hours if ther a bitch, when yer thinking of doing it? , start friday night , gives yer all weekend then.

and will noticably improve the ride quality

jmattley · May 22, 2009

Sounds good, worth changing the bushes en all you reckon?
One last question as well, promise! Bearing in mind all the series I've been have had ****ed springs, how close to a coil sprung jobby does the ride compare, I'm not after that quality, just a comparison.
Cheers!

90truckcab · May 22, 2009

er inbetween , if that makes sense ! yes do the bushes too, use originals not pollys . yer will have a job gerrin them out tho, have to burn them out , nock them out with a sledge hammer , how ever yer want to do it !

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