should i put a 19j in ?

Hello,
i have a 2.5n/a ex military fitted for radio 110 which we are in the middle of making more comfortable for long journeys abroad. I really want to keep the landrover simple as possible, but for the life of me i cant see me keeping the present engine, as over any incline it is not good at all. I have had the engine looked at for "tweaks" mentioned on here and its set up perfectly.

Having looked at 200tdi implant, that choice would mean an upgrade to the gearbox(possibly transfer box) because of the low gearing for military vehicles like mine. Add up the above changes, and add pas to the equation and your looking at a pretty penny.

The other choice is a straight forward drop in of a 19j, as i am not after uber power....just the ability to go up slight inclines without going down the gears. Not wishing to upset 19j owners, but i keep getting told that the 19j is prone to all sorts of nasties and that after 100,000 miles its ready for the bin etc.
Is a 19j implant a real choice, or am i just barking up the wrong tree ?

Steve.

If you're not going for a 200tdi due to cost (btw there's no reason to change the gear or transfer boxes at all) then I would stick with the 2.5na. It's not the fastest but its near enough bomb proof and will last you a long time. Not a lot of people transplant a 19j in and you've heard stories as to why...

cheers wolf,
looks like i am going to install pas and a lot of sound proofing...it does get on your nerves after a while.

stick a 200tdi in, you can keep your gearboxes as the engine will fit to the lt77.

find out what ratio transfer box you have (should have a sticker on it somewhere) then you can work out if you need to change it.

I have a 1.4 transfer box and i am going to keep my gearboxes and fit a 200tdi - you just need to swap the 2.5na bellhousing onto the tdi block to get it to line up

my 2.5na is a good one aswell, and its fine for pootling around or longer journey when empty but i have issues when i have it loaded up and i hit a slope lol

Is it the same for a TD 19J?
All I would need is old bellhousing on the 200 lump?

Its in the pipe line for this summer.

I don't know if it is the same at the TD - they share a common block so maybe but I don't know.

Just fit a 200/300tdi and be done with it. If you for a TD you will only be swapping it in a kills years when it melts

A Tdi will bolt in where a 2.5 comes out, bolt the 2.5 block mounts onto the Tdi and it falls straight in.

Ideally you'd want to pick up a complete Disco for the job as you can have everything out of it for your 110 including the power steering box, and even the radiator/intercooler can be made to fit pretty easily.

You'll need to get oil cooler and PAS pipes made to suit (the engine sits comparatively further back in earlier coilers) although there are a few people -Steve Parker being a well known one- selling complete kits of modified pipework for dropping 200 Tdi's in.

A fair percentage of of 2.5 N/A 110's had 1.6:1 transfer boxes, to allow the engine to have a chance at pulling them along fully loaded.
The Tdi will run with this gearing, but will only have a bearable causing speed of 50 - 55mph.
It will run faster than that but risks engine damage as Tdi's aren't too keen on running at high revs for long periods.
If you have a complete Disco to get the engine from then you can swop in the transfer box too, which will leave you with 1.22:1 gearing.

The simplest way to check is get underneath and read the number stamped into it. There's a fairly comprehensive list on Ashcrofts site listing what ratios correspond to whichever numbers.

A good 19J is a decent engine, and can be improved on by adding a few 200 Tdi components (notably the Bosch injection pump) and intercooling it, however you'd still need to change the radiator for one with an oil cooler, along with power steering pipes if you were doing it.

Honestly quicker, easier, and quite likely cheaper fitting a Tdi.

Bearing in mind TDI's nowadays will be worn out , high mileage etc etc.
7 or 8 years ago it was a great idea but finding a low mileage one now?

You could probably rebuild a 19j for less money than buying and making good a TDI.
TD's do not 'melt', they are good engines but like every engine you have to look after them. They will suffer greatly if you allow them to over heat , run low on oil or run them on the wrong oil. Regular oil and filter changes needs to be done and the tappets need checking every 1000 or so miles.
The engine I am using at the moment has 200k on it. It has a fueling problem but apart from that it pulls like a train. The one before that had 170 odd thousand and died because I drove it into a pond. This winter its getting a full rebuild as I'd rather have a new TD than a ropey old TDI.
I drove my old TD to Greece twice taking in the Alps, Dolomites and loads of off roading in Greece and it never missed a beat, even with 3 cracked pistons.

tdi is a much better engine than a 2.5td and if you had to rebuild any it should be a tdi ,but if you can find a td in good condition it can give good sevice