Series V8 and the Battery tray.

As I lay under Percy getting hyperthermia today I wondered if the Battery
tray will need to be cut away to fit in the V8.

Also should anyone know who's been there and done that... My transferbox is
mounted 4 inches further back to accomodate the Jag lump. The bell housing
of the current Jag lump finishes right above the crossmember.. is this
likely to be too far back? I know that the manifolds sometimes foul the
bulkhead but is this only at the narrowest point? I've heard in the past of
people cutting holes in the bulkhead to change spark plugs I guess I'd also
fall in to this catagory.

Anything else I need to know for the fitment of the likes of sd1 v8's and P6
V8's? Such as alternators needing relocation?

Lee D

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"Lee_D" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> As I lay under Percy getting hyperthermia today I wondered if the Battery
> tray will need to be cut away to fit in the V8.
>
> Also should anyone know who's been there and done that... My transferbox
is
> mounted 4 inches further back to accomodate the Jag lump. The bell housing
> of the current Jag lump finishes right above the crossmember.. is this
> likely to be too far back? I know that the manifolds sometimes foul the
> bulkhead but is this only at the narrowest point? I've heard in the past
of
> people cutting holes in the bulkhead to change spark plugs I guess I'd
also
> fall in to this catagory.
>
> Anything else I need to know for the fitment of the likes of sd1 v8's and
P6
> V8's? Such as alternators needing relocation?
>
> Lee D

My experience was with fitting a RR V8 into a SWB Series III so pick from
this what you will........

I did away with the battery tray altogether and relocated the battery to
under the LH front seat. To get it in there I also did away with the
toolbox thingy under the seat, cut the top off an old fuel tank and bolted
that up onto the outriggers in its place. You'd need to have a military
spec chassis to do that though (they have the extra fuel tank outriggers on
the left-hand side) or weld on either a tank outrigger or something else
that you can hang the tank/battery box on. I didn't think the standard
toolbox thingy was deep enough for a battery.

The gearbox in my V8 88" sits in its usual place with modified engine mounts
to put the donkey where it needs to be. I haven't had to cut any holes in
the bulkhead to be able to get at the plugs (although I admit that the rear
ones, particularly on the left side, are a bit tight to get to). Of course,
the bulkhead and tunnel did have to be modified. IIRC both footwells had to
be shrunk slightly and the centre "bulge" deepened and extended. The heater
matrix has to be moved over too to avoid fouling the inlet elbows (assuming
carburettor V8 like mine), which in turn means you have to move the blower
motor over a bit and also means you have to blank off half the bulkhead
hole. Mine still puts out plenty of heat though, and the cab is like toast
once the engine and exhaust pipes get warm anyway!

I had to move my alternator from the left side to the right side (the engine
came out of a Range Rover) and there was a bit of a faff finding a suitable
mounting bracket. My donor didn't have air-con so maybe the air-con pump
mounting bracket would be suitable (my alt now sits where the air-con pump
would be).

Add a remote oil filter and, if you're using the standard series radiator
like I have, an electric radiator fan. I could have moved the radiator
forward and used the viscous fan, but I wanted to retain the Series III
front. For the exhaust I had to extend the down-pipes just after the
manifold connection but the manifolds themselves certainly don't foul
anything.

Steve

When we put a V8 in our series 2. I kept the battery in the engine
compartment in the original place. The alternator we moved from the left (as
if sitting in drivers seat) to the right and made up a new shorter bracket
so it cleared the battery. I didnt want the battery under the seat as I
wanted the space for tools etc.
In our V8 90 I would love the battery in the engine bay but I cant see where
it would fit.
Off the shelf exhaust for 88" with a V8 from Jake Wright

Richard


"Lee_D" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:Z%[email protected]...
> As I lay under Percy getting hyperthermia today I wondered if the Battery
> tray will need to be cut away to fit in the V8.
>
> Also should anyone know who's been there and done that... My transferbox
> is mounted 4 inches further back to accomodate the Jag lump. The bell
> housing of the current Jag lump finishes right above the crossmember.. is
> this likely to be too far back? I know that the manifolds sometimes foul
> the bulkhead but is this only at the narrowest point? I've heard in the
> past of people cutting holes in the bulkhead to change spark plugs I guess
> I'd also fall in to this catagory.
>
> Anything else I need to know for the fitment of the likes of sd1 v8's and
> P6 V8's? Such as alternators needing relocation?
>
> Lee D
>
> --
>
> www.lrproject.com
>
> Workshop photos from Landrover repairs
> & other such tinkerings.
> Home of Percy the Jag powered Landrover (Currently stationary engine)
>
>

"Richard" <richardsemail [email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> When we put a V8 in our series 2. I kept the battery in the engine
> compartment in the original place. The alternator we moved from the left
> (as if sitting in drivers seat) to the right and made up a new shorter
> bracket so it cleared the battery. I didnt want the battery under the seat
> as I wanted the space for tools etc.
> In our V8 90 I would love the battery in the engine bay but I cant see
> where it would fit.
> Off the shelf exhaust for 88" with a V8 from Jake Wright
>
> Richard

Cheers Steve and Rich!

Richard, what manifolds do you have, I understand that there are different
Rangie ones any ideas which I'd need. I fabricated Percys current exhaust
but I'd much prefer an off the shelf option for this time around.

Lee D

The V8 in the series II was from a rover P6 and the manifolds were quite
large. I swapped them for range rover manifolds (i think from about 1979) as
they were 'flatter'. you need these due to the chassis rails.
On our v8 90 I have put rimmer tubular manifolds on, must say tho i'm not
very impressed with their system.

Richard


"Lee_D" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> "Richard" <richardsemail [email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> When we put a V8 in our series 2. I kept the battery in the engine
>> compartment in the original place. The alternator we moved from the left
>> (as if sitting in drivers seat) to the right and made up a new shorter
>> bracket so it cleared the battery. I didnt want the battery under the
>> seat as I wanted the space for tools etc.
>> In our V8 90 I would love the battery in the engine bay but I cant see
>> where it would fit.
>> Off the shelf exhaust for 88" with a V8 from Jake Wright
>>
>> Richard
>
> Cheers Steve and Rich!
>
> Richard, what manifolds do you have, I understand that there are different
> Rangie ones any ideas which I'd need. I fabricated Percys current exhaust
> but I'd much prefer an off the shelf option for this time around.
>
> Lee D
>

On or around Fri, 17 Dec 2004 23:09:48 GMT, "Lee_D" <[email protected]>
enlightened us thusly:

> Richard, what manifolds do you have, I understand that there are different
>Rangie ones any ideas which I'd need. I fabricated Percys current exhaust
>but I'd much prefer an off the shelf option for this time around.

I was told that you need stage1 V8 manifolds to get a V8 into a series.
Mind, I was told the same about getting it into the 110, which was crap -
ranger rover manifolds, down pipes and Y pipe interface perfectly with the
110 exhaust system.

The series might be tighter on space though.

--
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"The breezy call of incense-breathing Morn, The swallow twittering
from the strawbuilt shed, The cock's shrill clarion, or the echoing
horn, No more shall rouse them from their lowly bed."
Thomas Gray, Elegy Written in a Country Churchyard.

"Austin Shackles" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On or around Fri, 17 Dec 2004 23:09:48 GMT, "Lee_D" <[email protected]>
> enlightened us thusly:
>
>> Richard, what manifolds do you have, I understand that there are
>> different
>>Rangie ones any ideas which I'd need. I fabricated Percys current exhaust
>>but I'd much prefer an off the shelf option for this time around.
>
> I was told that you need stage1 V8 manifolds to get a V8 into a series.
> Mind, I was told the same about getting it into the 110, which was crap -
> ranger rover manifolds, down pipes and Y pipe interface perfectly with the
> 110 exhaust system.
>
> The series might be tighter on space though.

I'd heard that in the past too but the concensus of the research tends to
suggets Rangie manifolds. Then again the Pros said the Jag lump wouldn't
fit. Any more Stage 1 parts and I'll come over all guilty ;-)

Lee D.

Hi all if its of any help I have put a V8 into a SIIA and used the normal
Range Rover V8 as it came out of the Rangie and with the original exhaust
manifolds ( 1973 ) and had no problems there was a very slight touching of
the corner of the footwells but with a plasma cutter and some steel plate it
was sorted out but we are only talking about an inch or so. I used a 101
bell housing with input shaft so I could keep the 4 speed Rangie g/box with
overdrive, the exhaust y pipe would have fitted but because I used the
shorter bell housing I had to cut it about..
All this and I kept the steped in front panel with headlights and the rad
just behind that and a fan on the v8 waterpump, quite chuffed with the end
result even if I say so my self which I do !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The bat I moved to the passenger side seat box and made a new base which was
about 5 inches deeper to suit the battery..

Rich