Series III - sound proofing

Hi

Grateful for advice on sound proofing a Series III 2.25 diesel. We are
travelling to Scotland in December and the thought of 600miles on a motorway
is not a pleasant one.

There is a kit available but costs £250 which is a bit steep. Has any one
any advice of the most cost effective ways of reducing the noise other than
wearing ear plugs? Where is the best place to put sound proofing for maximum
effect? Is felt better than those stick on rubber squares.

thanks & regards
Matt

harry2111 wrote:
> Hi
>
> Grateful for advice on sound proofing a Series III 2.25 diesel. We are
> travelling to Scotland in December and the thought of 600miles on a motorway
> is not a pleasant one.
>
> There is a kit available but costs £250 which is a bit steep. Has any one
> any advice of the most cost effective ways of reducing the noise other than
> wearing ear plugs? Where is the best place to put sound proofing for maximum
> effect? Is felt better than those stick on rubber squares.
>
> thanks & regards
> Matt

I don't doubt that others have had success with felt. My experience with
felts/carpet and the like is that it works wonderfully if you shove
enough of it either side of the bulkhead. Unfortunately UK tends to
have more than its fair share of rain. It didn't take long for the
whole wagon to sink of mildew. I wasn't surprised by the felt outside
the cab, but on a SIII 109 StatWag there are plenty of places for the
water to get in, so the smell was bad inside too.
(This of course also lead to more condensation and plagues of flies when
the warmer weather arrived)

I went in search of something that didn't soak up water. Had a little
success with low density expanded polystyrene but panicked a little
about the fire hazard.

Then tried the yellow/tan coloured expanding aerosol foam (used around
window frames in new buildings), but was amazed at how quickly that
catches fire once cured.

I have settled for a fireproof version of the same stuff - it costs a
fortune from ScrewFix. That stuff you can squirt just about anywhere.
The first place I tried was the underside of the bonnet. Works well but
with one problem.
It's candy pink in colour!
I am now terrified to break down at the roadside - who knows what sort
of help I'll get with a bonnet looking like pink meringue. :-(

Best of luck,
If I had my time again, I'd stick with felt but get the cab waterproof
first.


--
Andy Richardson <[email protected]>
99% of Linux users moved away from Windows
99% of Windows users don't know there's a choice

Matt wrote >
> Grateful for advice on sound proofing a Series III 2.25 diesel. We are
> travelling to Scotland in December and the thought of 600miles on a
> motorway is not a pleasant one.
>
> There is a kit available but costs £250 which is a bit steep. Has any one
> any advice of the most cost effective ways of reducing the noise other
> than wearing ear plugs? Where is the best place to put sound proofing for
> maximum effect? Is felt better than those stick on rubber squares.
>
It should already have "door seals" around the edge of the bonnet if it's
S111 diesel but if it isn't then fit some, makes a big difference (also
works for a petrol too). Get some stick on soundproofing and do the top of
the bulkhead and stick pads on every inside panel, where someone travelling
in it whilst your driving, can feel vibration. If you can't afford the
proper soundproofing pads then use Flashing tape as used by builders, heavy
metal with a bitumen sticky side. Carpet in the back helps too.

--
Regards
Bob
In Runnymede, 17 miles West of London

On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 11:36:33 +0100, "harry2111" <[email protected]> wrote:

>Hi
>
>Grateful for advice on sound proofing a Series III 2.25 diesel. We are
>travelling to Scotland in December and the thought of 600miles on a motorway
>is not a pleasant one.
>
>There is a kit available but costs £250 which is a bit steep. Has any one
>any advice of the most cost effective ways of reducing the noise other than
>wearing ear plugs? Where is the best place to put sound proofing for maximum
>effect? Is felt better than those stick on rubber squares.

I bought a soundproofing kit for my 2A 2.5 diesel (noiseier than a
2.25!) while at billing this year. Mine cost me £150. I wasnt sure
wether i wanted to spend that much but some people were refusing to go
anywhere in my landy as it was 'so bloody noisy', so i went for it!

It came with all the bits to do under the bonnet. the bulkhead and the
floors/tunnel and seatbox (top and sides).
with the exception of the floor mats and the seatbox top bits it it
all sticky. Its like a couple of layers of diferent foamy stuff with a
layer of ally in the middle. doesnt soak up water which is good. Some
of it is shiney heat shielded stuff too.

It made a fair difference. in that you can hear each other talk now,
and i can hear the radio!. Not sure if it was totally worth the money,
but its definately a fair improvement!
I havent got round to doing the seat box yet (need to fit a new one),
and have a bit along the top of the bulkhead still lacking as their
series3 kit doesnt quite fit a 2A as well as they promised it would.

I have also fitted a sheet of wood over the floor in the rear tub
which has made quite an improvement too

Since i fitted the soundproofing my exhaust has got very very noisy so
i cant really do a proper comparison of sound levels yet. I am
currently enjoying the exhaust noise too much to change it
I definately have much less engine noise now. I used to be able to
hear diesel rattle but that has gone.

You could always go for the cheapest option and wear earmuffs or even a
Russian Hat with ear flaps. Pretend its the wife 'Droning on' then you'll go
into a trance and forget about the noise until the word 'sex' is mentioned.

Works for me anyway........

Adrian Ford

"Bob Hobden" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Matt wrote >
> > Grateful for advice on sound proofing a Series III 2.25 diesel. We are
> > travelling to Scotland in December and the thought of 600miles on a
> > motorway is not a pleasant one.
> >
> > There is a kit available but costs £250 which is a bit steep. Has any
one
> > any advice of the most cost effective ways of reducing the noise other
> > than wearing ear plugs? Where is the best place to put sound proofing
for
> > maximum effect? Is felt better than those stick on rubber squares.
> >
> It should already have "door seals" around the edge of the bonnet if it's
> S111 diesel but if it isn't then fit some, makes a big difference (also
> works for a petrol too). Get some stick on soundproofing and do the top of
> the bulkhead and stick pads on every inside panel, where someone
travelling
> in it whilst your driving, can feel vibration. If you can't afford the
> proper soundproofing pads then use Flashing tape as used by builders,
heavy
> metal with a bitumen sticky side. Carpet in the back helps too.
>
> --
> Regards
> Bob
> In Runnymede, 17 miles West of London
>
>

you'd be better off with a set of those Bose noise cancelling headphones


--
Larry
Series 3 rust and holes



"harry2111" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi
>
> Grateful for advice on sound proofing a Series III 2.25 diesel. We are
> travelling to Scotland in December and the thought of 600miles on a
motorway
> is not a pleasant one.
>
> There is a kit available but costs £250 which is a bit steep. Has any one
> any advice of the most cost effective ways of reducing the noise other
than
> wearing ear plugs? Where is the best place to put sound proofing for
maximum
> effect? Is felt better than those stick on rubber squares.
>
> thanks & regards
> Matt
>
>

> Grateful for advice on sound proofing a Series III 2.25 diesel. We are
> travelling to Scotland in December and the thought of 600miles on a
motorway
> is not a pleasant one.
>
> There is a kit available but costs £250 which is a bit steep. Has any one
> any advice of the most cost effective ways of reducing the noise other
than
> wearing ear plugs? Where is the best place to put sound proofing for
maximum
> effect? Is felt better than those stick on rubber squares.


Where can you get thoes sticky rubber squares from? My series 3 restoration
project is geting to the stage where I can actualy start to think about
seats, carpets and soundproofing! Has anybody tried thoughs kits on ebay?
Seem to go for around £40 mark....?
Thanks! Toby

On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 16:20:55 -0000, "TVS" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Where can you get thoes sticky rubber squares from? My series 3 restoration
>project is geting to the stage where I can actualy start to think about
>seats, carpets and soundproofing! Has anybody tried thoughs kits on ebay?
>Seem to go for around £40 mark....?

Woolies trim (http://www.woolies-trim.co.uk) seem to sell some
soundproofing stuff. not sure if thats the stuff youre after though?