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Adrian Jenkinson

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All,

Thank you all for your help everyone... It coughed into life on the first
blip of the key! with no choke either :-D (DEEP JOY!!!).

And you know what it was in the end... everything was working fine and as it
should be. Sparking, compression and fuel. There was i dodgey joint on the
HT lead going from the coil to the distributor. When the engine was still
and blipped into life by the starter motor, the engine was fireing as
normal. As the engine rocked into life it would pull just enough on the (a
little tort) HT lead on the distributor... this as it happens was enough to
**** the electricity up the wall and not spark as engine rocked into life.

All due to weak joint... well i never.

She runs as sweet as a Nut now...

Thanx everyone very much indeed

Adrian.



 
"Adrian Jenkinson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> All,
>
> Thank you all for your help everyone... It coughed into life on the first
> blip of the key! with no choke either :-D (DEEP JOY!!!).
>
> And you know what it was in the end... everything was working fine and as
it
> should be. Sparking, compression and fuel. There was i dodgey joint on
the
> HT lead going from the coil to the distributor. When the engine was still
> and blipped into life by the starter motor, the engine was fireing as
> normal. As the engine rocked into life it would pull just enough on the
(a
> little tort) HT lead on the distributor... this as it happens was enough
to
> **** the electricity up the wall and not spark as engine rocked into life.
>
> All due to weak joint... well i never.
>
> She runs as sweet as a Nut now...
>
> Thanx everyone very much indeed
>
> Adrian.


When I were a lad I had a cause to take the carb off My VW Beetle to fix the
air cooling fan if I recall correctly. It was a quick fix or supposed to be,
then I was to go off out for an evenings entertainment. I removed the Carb
and wedged a Biro in the fuel line to stop petrol peeing out.

Rebuilt it all and fired up .. all was well for oh at least 30 seconds until
the engine died.

Several frustrating hours later in the drizzle I took the carb off again,,,,
for about the fith time...this time suspectiing the float may have stuck
shut I tapped the top of the carb with a screwdriver.... a tiny ping was
heard as the ball bearing from the bic ball point pen fell from the float
entrance of the carb and bounced off the rear bumper across the drive. I
quick check of the end of the Biro revealled the absence of a ball point.

Moral to the story... use a pencil. :)


Lee D



 
On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 09:43:25 +0000 (UTC), "Adrian Jenkinson"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>All,
>
>Thank you all for your help everyone... It coughed into life on the first
>blip of the key! with no choke either :-D (DEEP JOY!!!).
>
>And you know what it was in the end... everything was working fine and as it
>should be. Sparking, compression and fuel. There was i dodgey joint on the
>HT lead going from the coil to the distributor. When the engine was still
>and blipped into life by the starter motor, the engine was fireing as
>normal. As the engine rocked into life it would pull just enough on the (a
>little tort) HT lead on the distributor... this as it happens was enough to
>**** the electricity up the wall and not spark as engine rocked into life.
>
>All due to weak joint... well i never.
>

Always expect the unexpected. I had a classic conk out on the way home
one night. It started to run rough and then died. Couldn't start it,
so I had to get towed home. Got home to find no spark. Much faffing
with points, coils and plugs etc. Eventually I tracked the fault down
to a rotor arm that was shorting the spark to earth. Took about 3
hours to find that one....

Alex
 
Alex wrote:


>
> Always expect the unexpected. I had a classic conk out on the way home
> one night. It started to run rough and then died. Couldn't start it,
> so I had to get towed home. Got home to find no spark. Much faffing
> with points, coils and plugs etc. Eventually I tracked the fault down
> to a rotor arm that was shorting the spark to earth. Took about 3
> hours to find that one....

Takes the average apprentice mechanic about 3 days to find why his car
won't start when a colleague doctors up the rotor arm.

--
EMB
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Adrian Jenkinson wrote:
>
> All,
>
> Thank you all for your help everyone... It coughed into life on the first
> blip of the key! with no choke either :-D (DEEP JOY!!!).
>
> And you know what it was in the end... everything was working fine and as it
> should be. Sparking, compression and fuel. There was i dodgey joint on the
> HT lead going from the coil to the distributor. When the engine was still
> and blipped into life by the starter motor, the engine was fireing as
> normal. As the engine rocked into life it would pull just enough on the (a
> little tort) HT lead on the distributor... this as it happens was enough to
> **** the electricity up the wall and not spark as engine rocked into life.
>
> All due to weak joint... well i never.
>
> She runs as sweet as a Nut now...
>
> Thanx everyone very much indeed
>
> Adrian.

Years ago a nice RAC man was the only person who found out why my
Citroen CX could go backwards round the car park all day, but not
forward. It died as soon as "D" was engaged (auto box). Turns out that
the (transverse mounted) engine rocked slightly forwards or backwards
depending on direction of drive, which had worn a break in middle of the
equivalent of the LT wire (no coil as such).


--
Regards,
Danny

http://www.gaggia-espresso.com (a purely hobby site)
http://www.dannyscoffee.com (UK advert for my mobile espresso service)
http://www.malabargold.co.uk (UK/European online ordering for Malabar
Gold blend)
swap Z for above characters in email address to reply

 
"Adrian Jenkinson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> All,
>
> Thank you all for your help everyone... It coughed into life on the first
> blip of the key! with no choke either :-D (DEEP JOY!!!).
>
> And you know what it was in the end... everything was working fine and as
it
> should be. Sparking, compression and fuel. There was i dodgey joint on
the
> HT lead going from the coil to the distributor. When the engine was still
> and blipped into life by the starter motor, the engine was fireing as
> normal. As the engine rocked into life it would pull just enough on the
(a
> little tort) HT lead on the distributor... this as it happens was enough
to
> **** the electricity up the wall and not spark as engine rocked into life.
>
> All due to weak joint... well i never.
>
> She runs as sweet as a Nut now...
>
> Thanx everyone very much indeed
>
> Adrian.


When I were a lad I had a cause to take the carb off My VW Beetle to fix the
air cooling fan if I recall correctly. It was a quick fix or supposed to be,
then I was to go off out for an evenings entertainment. I removed the Carb
and wedged a Biro in the fuel line to stop petrol peeing out.

Rebuilt it all and fired up .. all was well for oh at least 30 seconds until
the engine died.

Several frustrating hours later in the drizzle I took the carb off again,,,,
for about the fith time...this time suspectiing the float may have stuck
shut I tapped the top of the carb with a screwdriver.... a tiny ping was
heard as the ball bearing from the bic ball point pen fell from the float
entrance of the carb and bounced off the rear bumper across the drive. I
quick check of the end of the Biro revealled the absence of a ball point.

Moral to the story... use a pencil. :)


Lee D



 
On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 09:43:25 +0000 (UTC), "Adrian Jenkinson"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>All,
>
>Thank you all for your help everyone... It coughed into life on the first
>blip of the key! with no choke either :-D (DEEP JOY!!!).
>
>And you know what it was in the end... everything was working fine and as it
>should be. Sparking, compression and fuel. There was i dodgey joint on the
>HT lead going from the coil to the distributor. When the engine was still
>and blipped into life by the starter motor, the engine was fireing as
>normal. As the engine rocked into life it would pull just enough on the (a
>little tort) HT lead on the distributor... this as it happens was enough to
>**** the electricity up the wall and not spark as engine rocked into life.
>
>All due to weak joint... well i never.
>

Always expect the unexpected. I had a classic conk out on the way home
one night. It started to run rough and then died. Couldn't start it,
so I had to get towed home. Got home to find no spark. Much faffing
with points, coils and plugs etc. Eventually I tracked the fault down
to a rotor arm that was shorting the spark to earth. Took about 3
hours to find that one....

Alex
 
Alex wrote:


>
> Always expect the unexpected. I had a classic conk out on the way home
> one night. It started to run rough and then died. Couldn't start it,
> so I had to get towed home. Got home to find no spark. Much faffing
> with points, coils and plugs etc. Eventually I tracked the fault down
> to a rotor arm that was shorting the spark to earth. Took about 3
> hours to find that one....

Takes the average apprentice mechanic about 3 days to find why his car
won't start when a colleague doctors up the rotor arm.

--
EMB
change two to number to reply
 
Adrian Jenkinson wrote:
>
> All,
>
> Thank you all for your help everyone... It coughed into life on the first
> blip of the key! with no choke either :-D (DEEP JOY!!!).
>
> And you know what it was in the end... everything was working fine and as it
> should be. Sparking, compression and fuel. There was i dodgey joint on the
> HT lead going from the coil to the distributor. When the engine was still
> and blipped into life by the starter motor, the engine was fireing as
> normal. As the engine rocked into life it would pull just enough on the (a
> little tort) HT lead on the distributor... this as it happens was enough to
> **** the electricity up the wall and not spark as engine rocked into life.
>
> All due to weak joint... well i never.
>
> She runs as sweet as a Nut now...
>
> Thanx everyone very much indeed
>
> Adrian.

Years ago a nice RAC man was the only person who found out why my
Citroen CX could go backwards round the car park all day, but not
forward. It died as soon as "D" was engaged (auto box). Turns out that
the (transverse mounted) engine rocked slightly forwards or backwards
depending on direction of drive, which had worn a break in middle of the
equivalent of the LT wire (no coil as such).


--
Regards,
Danny

http://www.gaggia-espresso.com (a purely hobby site)
http://www.dannyscoffee.com (UK advert for my mobile espresso service)
http://www.malabargold.co.uk (UK/European online ordering for Malabar
Gold blend)
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