Series 3 engine mount fabrication for Daihatsu 2.8td

I’ve been asked to make some engine mounts for Daihatsu 2.8td into series 2b/3 chassis. The engine has been fitted already but is on the skew and sitting 2-3° off upright.
I’ve now been told the gearbox has been removed for repair but still wanting to make the new mounts this weekend.
My thinking is- it would be better to do once the gearbox is refitted and connected to the prop. Owner has said no need to wait.
What are your thoughts on this? I’m not being paid to do this btw

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Yeah wait for the gearbox.

Pappasmurf said:

Yeah wait for the gearbox.

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bog69 said:

I’ve been asked to make some engine mounts for Daihatsu 2.8td into series 2b/3 chassis. The engine has been fitted already but is on the skew and sitting 2-3° off upright.
I’ve now been told the gearbox has been removed for repair but still wanting to make the new mounts this weekend.
My thinking is- it would be better to do once the gearbox is refitted and connected to the prop. Owner has said no need to wait.
What are your thoughts on this? I’m not being paid to do this btw

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Definitely wait - you know the engine's over to the left? Sorry if that's doing the egg suck thing...

Cheers. Didn’t know that.
1. The original gearstick hole had been cut towards the centre of the cover.
2. The engine doesn’t sit inline with the chassis.
3. Engine is cranked over slightly towards the passenger side (rhd)
4. My friend has bought a professionally made/modified galvanised bulkhead to suit this conversion and it’s hitting on the passenger side. He doesn’t want to cut any bits off if he can help it.
Centralising it looked to be the answer.
5. My mate also got an very low mileage engine (untested and unused in 10/20 years) and conversion kit with the bulkhead. The mounts don’t look the same as the ones already fitted. One has either been made wrong, or is for another vehicle, or uses a different style engine mount to the ones already in use. Completely different angle one side to the other.

As you can see, it’s not a straight forward modification. Doubt it’s going to be hard to sort but I’ve no reference to go off except a sensible guess.
Is it bad if the engine isn’t offset? Obviously trying to keep prop as straight as possible. I’ve not had a really good look yet. Somebody else took the gearbox off. It was only moved to garage to be worked on last weekend. Most of the body has been stripped off too.
Cheers for any help or advise.

The reason that the engine isn't in the middle is the transfer gearbox. It would hit the right chassis rail. They reduced the offset need by angling the gear train downwards, but if they'd taken that to the extreme it would then hang out under the chassis, all a compromise - as ever. So get the boxes in and then the engine parallel with the rail. I don't think there's any nose up, but I haven't measured it on a Series.

Oh and. The gearlever does come out of the centre of the tunnel, true, BUT the tunnel isn't in the middle! Neither's the cut out in the bulkhead,

cheers. He’s getting an overdrive fitted too so even more reason to wait.

bog69 said:

cheers. He’s getting an overdrive fitted too so even more reason to wait.

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Actually, that doesn't make too much difference, but it's deffo easier to lift all of the components in separately.

boguing said:

Oh and. The gearlever does come out of the centre of the tunnel, true, BUT the tunnel isn't in the middle! Neither's the cut out in the bulkhead,

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He’s got another cover as the the one it came with had been hacked about rather than a nice neat job. The original hole is about half a hole out from the hacked one. It’s going to need bit more thought than I imagined.
I’ve been asking him to ask all this on a forum for at least a year. He no ristens

boguing said:

Actually, that doesn't make too much difference, but it's deffo easier to lift all of the components in separately.

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Luckily that’s not my job
Once it’s back together I can hang off an engine crane and get it where it needs to be and then tweak to optimal position allowing for best clearances on everything. Maybe something else may need to be modified.
Battery tray is looking a prime candidate. If it was mine I’d be cutting it back and making it a bolt in tray. So the engine can be worked on easier in the future

bog69 said:

He’s got another cover as the the one it came with had been hacked about rather than a nice neat job. The original hole is about half a hole out from the hacked one. It’s going to need bit more thought than I imagined.
I’ve been asking him to ask all this on a forum for at least a year. He no ristens

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The reason I know all this is because I'm fitting a wide engine in, and it has to be in the middle. That means the bellhousing I've designed rotates the gearbox so that the transfer box also rotates downwards (and yes it sticks down a bit more, another compromise) and there still isn't room for the handbrake.

boguing said:

The reason I know all this is because I'm fitting a wide engine in, and it has to be in the middle. That means the bellhousing I've designed rotates the gearbox so that the transfer box also rotates downwards (and yes it sticks down a bit more, another compromise) and there still isn't room for the handbrake.

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What engine??? His looks ok clearance wise just the bulkhead issue

A Jaguar V engine, and I'm being a bit lazy and want the standard manifolds inside the chassis rails, they're the wide bit.

boguing said:

A Jaguar V engine, and I'm being a bit lazy and want the standard manifolds inside the chassis rails, they're the wide bit.

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Will be a beast when it’s done