series 2a 109 recovery truck

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dandit1200 said:
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Thank you for pics I think these trucks are amazing work horses and have more than proven there ruggedness please keep them coming folks I love the replies and all the interest
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No problem. I like the look of a recovery wagon. The series one is a 109 and is reputed to have been owned by the garage from new. (it belongs to my father) Yours will look that bit different with the safari roof. Look forward to seeing it done. Good luck.
 
Rustystuff said:
No problem. I like the look of a recovery wagon. The series one is a 109 and is reputed to have been owned by the garage from new. (it belongs to my father) Yours will look that bit different with the safari roof. Look forward to seeing it done. Good luck.
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Thanks for the info and pics rustystuff it's all well appreciated I think I seen the name Barnes garage on another truck may be just a coincidence I'm sure it was cream/ off White it's hard to tell if I'm awake half the time all I see is landrovers haha haha day and night
 
That last pic the old garage is not far from where I used to work in cradly Bromyard I used to be the mechanic for reliant spares.com few years back .I'm surprised the A A haven't tried to buy it back they did restore a few .also don't seem to see a lot of the 109s going makes me more determine to get her sorted .....more pics to follow soon guys, thanks everyone for all your input and interest and positive vibes real good crowd :)
 
On another note does anybody have any pics of the crane set up on an car ready for towing or any form of instructions for use/setup ...I'm sure it's more simple than I'm making it .I assume the chains would go around the lower arms an lock off some how then I'm not sure??????? Food for thought
 
Last question for tonight ....does anybody have any idea of what sort of front mounted winch would have been used back in the day .Would it have been a 12volt motor or a pro? ???
 
Very likely to be a PTO type either capstan or drum. You can buy capstan winches on Ebay but be careful to ensure they come with all the driver parts. Bloody expensive even secondhand. A front winch with your rear winch would be the dogs bollocks.
 
John S said:
Very likely to be a PTO type either capstan or drum. You can buy capstan winches on Ebay but be careful to ensure they come with all the driver parts. Bloody expensive even secondhand. A front winch with your rear winch would be the dogs bollocks.
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As regards to the mutts Nutts if I mange to pull of this restoration I think she is going to deserve a good old strong winch ..cheers for all help support and advise it's all being soaked up like a proverbial sponge ;)
 
dandit1200 said:
On another note does anybody have any pics of the crane set up on an car ready for towing or any form of instructions for use/setup ...I'm sure it's more simple than I'm making it .I assume the chains would go around the lower arms an lock off some how then I'm not sure??????? Food for thought
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The two chains get wrapped around the front axil / something strong on the vehicle to be towed, climb in the back crank on the handle till you've lifted it of the ground. drop the bar in between the rear of your Land Rover and the horizontal bit hanging on the hook (stops it swinging about) ..... and of you go !
 
Rustystuff said:
The two chains get wrapped around the front axil / something strong on the vehicle to be towed, climb in the back crank on the handle till you've lifted it of the ground. drop the bar in between the rear of your Land Rover and the horizontal bit hanging on the hook (stops it swinging about) ..... and of you go !
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Sounds really simple and I'm sure it is otherwise it would be too complicated for everyday quick use .I have towed with an a frame which in principle as long as you have a wide span an the chains over the lower arms and tight then the are really good.bit of a gray area using them an when I tried to tow the series the wheels would not turn/track with the towing vehicle due to old age an not being moved so to get her back we had to sit in the series whilst being towed and steer her which was an experience I would advise against!!! I have however towed quite a few discos with a frames and never had a problem again using a frames nowadays is a grey area an I am not suggesting to anybody to copy me I do however suggest you check directgov.com for information so you can make your own mind up if you fit the criteria please don't go an tow just because you have read my post I take no responsibility ...to many compensation claims nowadays ...Thanks for all your help Rustystuff I can't wait to get to the stage of setting it up ;)
 
Rustystuff said:
The two chains get wrapped around the front axil / something strong on the vehicle to be towed, climb in the back crank on the handle till you've lifted it of the ground. drop the bar in between the rear of your Land Rover and the horizontal bit hanging on the hook (stops it swinging about) ..... and of you go !
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I guess this method doesn't work too well on newer cars with plastic bumpers. It's basically pulled along by the axle, and under braking shunts into the sling part.

That yellow truck would look fantastic with a bit of a clean up and restored lettering on the sides. :D

I think if you can get hold of one, a front capstan winch would be great. Usually they drive straight off the front of the engine with their own clutch to engage/disengage the drum. You loop the rope around the winch drum, and as you stand to one side and pull on the end of it, the winch amplifies your pull and does all the work. Makes for very precise control and of course very much period-correct for a series. The downside is that they need the engine running to operate, but with a recovery truck chances are you're helping someone else rather than winching yourself out of trouble. I'd also fit a more sturdy tow bar (the old one looks to just be cantilevered off the cross member) and install a pinball hitch, with which you can hook a tow rope around safely as well as pull trailers.
 
Hi there the capson winch sounds like the same winch we had on a fishing vessel I worked on when I was 16 dragging for oysters except this was home made with a steel wheel drum cheers for all your help guys.....defenatly one of the better forums I have ever used so much positive feedback and input .
 
Nice thread! Really putting the effort into this restoration :) Those old trucks in the pics look great. I loved Fred Dibnah's old red Series II. There's an article on it in the link below you might like but the restorers went for a new galvanised chassis for his - and whacked in a V8 :eek: Bless 'ole Fred, great programmes, real character, somewhere up a heavenly steeple now.

http://www.v8engines.com/projects-008.htm
 
Running a Capstan winch ideally needs an oil cooler fitted to the engine. That and the winch were optional extras.
X1 on lifting modern cars and getting a proper fixing point. Often they would have to have a cushion between the lifting chain's and the vehicle to avoid damage. A sack , rubber or wood buffer to protect bumper and body. A modern car towing point wouldn't be reliable or strong enough. Need to get right under to the sub frame.
 
RogueTrooper said:
Nice thread! Really putting the effort into this restoration :) Those old trucks in the pics look great. I loved Fred Dibnah's old red Series II. There's an article on it in the link below you might like but the restorers went for a new galvanised chassis for his - and whacked in a V8 :eek: Bless 'ole Fred, great programmes, real character, somewhere up a heavenly steeple now.

http://www.v8engines.com/projects-008.htm
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That's well worth the read and Fred dibnah what a bloke I watched a lot of his programs even down to windmill restorations ......what a bloke :)
 
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