Screws for door card

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patrickr90

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Just fitting a new door card to the tail safari door on my 1986 Ninety. Its a simple flat, plastic coated door card from LR Parts - no rear wiper. There's two captive bolts at the top with a couple of "strap" like things that look as though they will hold the top. I was going to go round with rivets but I might want to take it off again to work on the spare wheel bracket so was wondering what are the best self tapping screws that a) will hold the card, b) will look good and c) don't cost an arm and a leg. How are the door cards normally fitted?

Thanks
 
Hi

Just fitting a new door card to the tail safari door on my 1986 Ninety. Its a simple flat, plastic coated door card from LR Parts - no rear wiper. There's two captive bolts at the top with a couple of "strap" like things that look as though they will hold the top. I was going to go round with rivets but I might want to take it off again to work on the spare wheel bracket so was wondering what are the best self tapping screws that a) will hold the card, b) will look good and c) don't cost an arm and a leg. How are the door cards normally fitted?

Thanks
I would just use rivets. I have a chequer plate door card and just drill and replace the rivets when I need to remove it.

If you are going to use self tappers make sure they are stainless, they will hold it no problem, especially with some penny washers on them, and they will look basically the same as a rivet so although looking good is subjective they will look no different to many others.

What do you mean by the strap into the captive bolts? the two bolts along the top are for the handle. if it is the later style these like to bend and break off leaving behind the flat piece attached to the bolt. I like to replace this handle with the earlier series style as it is much tougher and does not bend and break.
 
My son has ali chequer plate on his which is riveted on.
Make sure you use sound deadening pads on the inside of the door and some foam insulation. I also covered the rear of the chequer plate with a foam insulation, it made a massive difference to rattles etc.
 
I would just use rivets. I have a chequer plate door card and just drill and replace the rivets when I need to remove it.

If you are going to use self tappers make sure they are stainless, they will hold it no problem, especially with some penny washers on them, and they will look basically the same as a rivet so although looking good is subjective they will look no different to many others.

What do you mean by the strap into the captive bolts? the two bolts along the top are for the handle. if it is the later style these like to bend and break off leaving behind the flat piece attached to the bolt. I like to replace this handle with the earlier series style as it is much tougher and does not bend and break.

Thanks guys. I've realised today that the "straps" are what is left of the handle. It must have broken off with a previous owner leaving two stubs. Before I saw your message, I ordered a s/h early defender one. I've included a link below. Hopefully it will last. If not, can you send a link of the earlier series ones?

 
Thanks guys. I've realised today that the "straps" are what is left of the handle. It must have broken off with a previous owner leaving two stubs. Before I saw your message, I ordered a s/h early defender one. I've included a link below. Hopefully it will last. If not, can you send a link of the earlier series ones?

That is the style that you will have had fitted before and tends to bend a break as you have found. The one you have ordered form ebay you can see where the bolt tabs have been bent, on a new one the bolt tabs are flat (pic below). It is the repetitive bending and straightening that causes them to snap. They are fundamentally not strong enough for people to lean on when dismounting form the back which is what causes the damage. The series ones are much more robust and will take the weight of an adult leaning on them. Also annoyingly for you, they are only slightly more expensive S/H than you have just paid for the defender version LINK

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That is the style that you will have had fitted before and tends to bend a break as you have found. The one you have ordered form ebay you can see where the bolt tabs have been bent, on a new one the bolt tabs are flat (pic below). It is the repetitive bending and straightening that causes them to snap. They are fundamentally not strong enough for people to lean on when dismounting form the back which is what causes the damage. The series ones are much more robust and will take the weight of an adult leaning on them. Also annoyingly for you, they are only slightly more expensive S/H than you have just paid for the defender version LINK

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Annoying indeed! Got too click happy...! Are the holes for the Series ones in the same place - ie. same spacing as Def ones?
 
Annoying indeed! Got too click happy...! Are the holes for the Series ones in the same place - ie. same spacing as Def ones?
They are exactly the same hole spacing. The series handle does sit snug up against the wiper cover (if you have one). I am trying to find a photo of it fitted to mine. I have one of the defender handle fitted to the series door where I swapped them over to show the spacing is the same:

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