running your car on vegtable oil

also try greenfuels.co.uk

Chris

Hi Chris
Thanks for the input, glad to see we are attracting some attention along the way, I’ve got to do something as my fuel consumption is very high, I think there’s a problem with whatever it should return at least 25-30 to gal,hu I’m getting 15-20 to gallon.
Now that Charlotte has stripped part of her engine, she now has no excuse it can be converted to derv, what do you say girl!
This bio diesel is not much cheaper than the petro stuff, I’m just waiting for Charlotte to give me her thoughts on that site I mentioned, I think she is bogged down with her efi & coronation street and east enders ect, ect
Norm

Hi Normstoy

I've read the site (makes most amusing read) I doubt if you rang Customs and Excise they would have a clue what you'd be on about.
I find they don't have a clue on much ( I am VAT exempt on all my car parts except fuel took a week before they had a clue to what would happen)

I also didn't know that there was a conversion kit available (seems a little odd personally as the Diesel engines have warm up plugs less you wanted to run both diesel and oil)

I can see there being certain issues if you kept a 400 gallon tank in your garden full of oil Customs may visit thinking you have red diesel.

at 45p a litre or so plus the odd 45p ish to Customs bringing it to nearer 90pence a litre, isn't that where Diesel is? whatever to Customs isn't it cheaper to convert to gas ? Here in Norwich gas is 38p and doesn't need filtering etc.

I could really see a chippy saying "Sure take the old oil" not! How would that go one the VAT return? as for the Tax man is that a consumable item or expense. Think I'll stick to LPG

Oh Diesels can run on LPG too.

I only know what chippy in the Entire County of Norfolk who uses the solid type Fat for frying (Lard/Beef dripping) the rest use oil so no idea where the author got their info on.

Normstoy can't convert mine to Diesel its a petrol engine (Don't think the Diesel engines will pull the autobox plus they sound like Tractors in the Range Rover)

Pah I won't watch any of those including the reality trash on TV (don't watch much TV)

Hi Charlotte
You certainly present a good read, it’s a while since I read something so invigorating .However, onward.
The customs, I’m curious, I have been led to believe that if you use red diesel in the tank the customs can tell as the dye leaves a stain in the tank, if I was to use the red for off road use only would this still be an offence, if staining the tank, were to be true I would have a problem, they could say it was being used on the highway, Hmm!
The conversion is to combat the difference in viscosity and to inhibit the glycerine from crystallising, that’s your field, and then there is the larger fuel pipe and the injectors for the higher pressure needed, again your field, the tank in the back garden would not be an issue, there are many properties that have oil tanks up to 1,500 gal, this is for the oil central heating boilers, although in the early sixties some plonker decided the best place for these was in the garage at the back, bloody architects, draw a line and the think they are the elite, yes I hate them, if I get a headache there’s one of them around, sorry I’m digressing, yes, I’m here again.
Now young lady, sorry, do not mean to be condescending, you’ve got my attention Diesel, run on LPG, your kidding, I thought this was for petrol only, it needs a spark to blow it up, yes, no! Gota give me more info on this, pretty please?

I understand you drive a beast, the V 8 nesting under the hood sounds, well its a V 8, it speaks for itself, although, when we talk about diesels, in the range rover we are now going forward to commercial and, as I believe, this is were the power is and yes the are a bit noisy, I would have thought that, not knowing much about the rangy they would do a diesel auto.
Do not do much TV myself, can not stand Jeremy Clarkson, irritates the hell out of me, although I was told he did a programme some time ago where he had an AA engineer to run a diesel with veggie oil.
Norm.

hi normstoy,veggie oil is only £1.30 in asda for 3 litres,its a lot cheaper to buy in bulk say in 50 litre drums,bio diesel costs about £1.10 a litre so way higher than diesel, the customs and excise do know about the tax on veggie oil and its only 26p a litre tax as i just got my form,i have run my 300 tdi know for 3 weeks on 30% oil it has only chugged twice on starting when very cold so i put the glow plugs on twice which works ok,it so far seems to run better quieter and more miles per gallon,they wont need to dip the tank they can smell it a mile away,go to any chip shop or chinese and you can get as much oil as you want for free as they have to pay to have it taken away,the same as garages charge you for disposal of your engine oil,it is time consuming to clean the oil.we used red diesel in the army and petrol was dyed yellow it most certainly dyes every part of the fuel system for life trust me,and if you used red diesel in your car and it was taxed for road use you would face a hefty fine as they dont go with the its for off road use only touch they arnt daft,

As anyone thought of using acetone, this is readily availble from various places (chemists etc...) apparently it increases the power and mpg of a diesel quite a lot so i was imformed by cruisermick

what sort of amount would you put in i have heard this before but have been told that is quite hard to get in decent measures as they ask what its for any ideas as to what you would use acetone for apart from glue removal ?

Composite engineering; its the only thing worth using for the removal of excess resins (epoxy or poly) and you buy it in BIG drums!!! Try marine suppliers or boat builders...

Chris

Hi

Normstoy I have no clue I'm going by what the author of the site has stated regarding C&E (personally I doubt if C&E would care if you ran something on Veggie oil) Red Diesel is another matter

Charlotte

My brother has just bought a system which he is using to make bio diesel from used vegetable oil and he runs his iveco van on it 100% he reckons it has more power and runs alot quieter thats why ive bought a old 110 dont think i will put it in my Td5 just yet.

hi henda were did he get his kit from was it very costly, tiga

Let us know how it goes in the 110?

Chris

Hi Henda
I`m as bad as tigapiglet, please let us know were he got the kit from. The brits are getting ripped off with fuel prices. The trouble is, if we protes and bring the country to a hault, of which has already been proved, and my admeration goes out to him. They will transfer the tax to another product.
Norm

Hi Everyone
Just been speaking to my brother about his bio diesel unit apparently he bought it off the net he is going to find out the address and i will let you know, the down side is it cost about £5000 but he does think you can buy smaller units.Still when you look at the savings involved it would soon pay for itself, he also has put 100% reclaimed oil in his tomb raider Td5 and says it it is running with the same improvements as his van. Very tempted to give it a go in my Td5.

Hi Henda
Where does your brother live, if its close enough we can always do a deal, I have no doubt that there will be a few of us that would rather your brother be on the better side than you know who. No Mr Major this is not a method of diddling you, we are just finding an alternative to bringing the country to a standstill. I have no doubt you would be allowed some too, I just don’t think you petrol engine would appreciate Bio.

Norm

I ran my Peugot 406 on it for the best part of a year and it was fine. Its dead easy to do and makes no diference to performance.

It will smell a little bit but it depends on what oil you use. I only used new vegitable or sunflower oil and you could smell it slightly upon start-up.
I would'nt bother using old oil from a restaurant as its a nightmare to filter all the crap out and belive me it 'stinks'.
The method id very easy......
Buy a 20-25 litre drum of oil and empty out a bit from the top as you will need to add 3% of white spirit. This works out to around 600ml but don't worry if its not 'bang on'.
Shake the drum to mix it in and just stick it into your tank. Works a treat and is a lot cheaper than the pump!

Hi Giles Clayton
Thanks for the input, I’m still very weary regarding this stuff in my Navara, I have to make sure it not going to affect the warranty, though, I have to find a cheaper method of running.

Is there no one out there who would have the information regarding running the Navara engine on veggie oil For obvoise reasons I dont wont to contact Nissan, they will have to know eventually, but I rather be armed with knowledge.

Norm

Giles, why not tip the white spirit into your tank then add the 25ltrs? It'd be well mixed and would save wasting any?

Chris

right thats it, im off to makro to buy a catering drum of veggie oil. my tank is nearing the 1/2 way point so when i get home im tipping the veggie oil in with a couple litres of white spirit.

if i dont reply again, suspect the worst!.......

If you do, let us know how it went..?

Chris