ROT: Drilling / Cutting Butane Tanks

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Simon Isaacs wrote:
> Mind it still
> stinks of the odour thing they put into the gas to tell you there's a
> leak.
>

Wash with bleach solution - orange liquid result is reaction product.

Steve
 
On or around Tue, 02 May 2006 20:41:42 +0100, Simon Isaacs <[email protected]>
enlightened us thusly:

>Stage 2 is a flexible design that will allow me to drop in a throat
>plate and a solid steel top and chimney. The throat plate will push
>the hot smoke under the hot plate, so that I use it as a cooking plate
>for pots and pans. If just using it as a heater, I would not put the
>throat plate in and just let the smoke go up the cimney higher up away
>from the people sat around it.
>
>Will post some piccies once complete, but quick bit of artwork below!
>
>| |
>| |
>| | <====Chimney
>| |
>| |
>| |________
>| |
>| ...... |<===Throat plate
>|..... |
>| ____ |
>| | | |
>| | | |
>| |___ | |
>| |
>|_________=== <== Damper pipe
> | | <===== Flap

you need to learn the true way of usenet, using fixed-pitch fonts...

>| |
>| |
>| | <====Chimney
>| |
>| |
>| |________
>| |
>| ...... |<===Throat plate
>|..... |
>| ____ |
>| | | |
>| | | |
>| |___ | |
>| |
>|___ __=== <== Damper pipe
> | | <===== Flap

dunno how near right that is.
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
"Something there is that doesn't love a wall."
Robert Frost (1874-1963)
 
On or around Tue, 02 May 2006 20:45:36 +0100, Mother <"@ {mother}
@"@101fc.net> enlightened us thusly:

>On Tue, 02 May 2006 20:34:10 +0100, Austin Shackles
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>>Do any of them really come out I wonder? May go and get another from
>>>the lockup later and see.
>>
>>yes. I only found a few that wouldn't unscrew. sod-off shifting spanner
>>got most of 'em.
>
>Right, left or right hand thread? I'll go and use the very big hammer
>again first before using the bolt cropper on the neck of the valve...

right, I think, from memory, but it's a long time ago. there were the odd
one or two that wouldn't unscrew.
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
"Something there is that doesn't love a wall."
Robert Frost (1874-1963)
 
Mother" <"@ {mother} @ <"@ {mother} @"@101fc.net> uttered summat
worrerz funny about:
> Kind of what I am hoping - if I don't post after 7pm tonight, assume
> that you and I were wrong...

How was it for you then?

Lee


 
Austin Shackles wrote:

> right, I think, from memory, but it's a long time ago. there were the odd
> one or two that wouldn't unscrew.

They are often glued in with a loctite too. Torch the head over say 150
Deg, and then try. How do you hold the bottle tight enough to really
spanner it off ?

Steve
 

"Steve Taylor" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Austin Shackles wrote:
>
> > right, I think, from memory, but it's a long time ago. there were
the odd
> > one or two that wouldn't unscrew.
>
> They are often glued in with a loctite too. Torch the head over say
150
> Deg, and then try. How do you hold the bottle tight enough to really
> spanner it off ?
>
> Steve

Make up a big strap wrench

AWEM


 
On or around Wed, 3 May 2006 19:04:27 +0100, "Andrew Mawson"
<andrew@no_spam_please_mawson.org.uk> enlightened us thusly:

>
>"Steve Taylor" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> Austin Shackles wrote:
>>
>> > right, I think, from memory, but it's a long time ago. there were
>the odd
>> > one or two that wouldn't unscrew.
>>
>> They are often glued in with a loctite too. Torch the head over say
>150
>> Deg, and then try. How do you hold the bottle tight enough to really
>> spanner it off ?
>>
>> Steve
>
>Make up a big strap wrench

could do. I forget the actual technique I used - I think it involved the
bottle on its side. Might've been a big hammer involved as well.
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
"The great masses of the people ... will more easily fall victims to
a great lie than to a small one" Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
from Mein Kampf, Ch 10
 
Austin Shackles wrote:
>Might've been a big hammer involved as well.

I suspect little would stand Austin, a big hammer and a spanner.

Steve
 
On Wed, 3 May 2006 14:31:48 +0100, "Lee_D"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>> Kind of what I am hoping - if I don't post after 7pm tonight, assume
>> that you and I were wrong...
>
>How was it for you then?

Unusually easy. After squinting at the bare bit of visible thread I
decided that it must be RH - so set about it with the largest
lumphammer I have. It didn't budge. Ah, must be LH thread then, hit
it lots more.

At some point, can't quite recall when, I remembered someone
mentioning "beating the **** out of the valve", so I adopted this
strategy along with a tribal chant of screaming "move you bastard" at
the top of my voice.

The valve broke clean at the neck.

Holding the bend and deformed valve high in praise of the great
architect of the gas bottle - I noticed a couple of the neighbours
looking over the gate, at me, the valve, then in dismay at the gas
bottle.

"alright?" they asked. "Yes", I replied, and smiled.


 
"Mother" <"@ {mother} @"@101fc.net> wrote in message
news:p[email protected]...
> Unusually easy. After squinting at the bare bit of visible thread I
> decided that it must be RH - so set about it with the largest
> lumphammer I have. It didn't budge. Ah, must be LH thread then, hit
> it lots more.
>
> At some point, can't quite recall when, I remembered someone
> mentioning "beating the **** out of the valve", so I adopted this
> strategy along with a tribal chant of screaming "move you bastard" at
> the top of my voice.
>
> The valve broke clean at the neck.
>
> Holding the bend and deformed valve high in praise of the great
> architect of the gas bottle - I noticed a couple of the neighbours
> looking over the gate, at me, the valve, then in dismay at the gas
> bottle.
>
> "alright?" they asked. "Yes", I replied, and smiled.

ROFL!

That'll be another entry in the neighbourhood log of strange happening ;-)

I would guess it made quite a subtle racket :)

Lee


 
On Wed, 03 May 2006 19:46:35 +0100, Mother <"@ {mother} @"@101fc.net>
scribbled the following nonsense:

>On Wed, 3 May 2006 14:31:48 +0100, "Lee_D"
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>> Kind of what I am hoping - if I don't post after 7pm tonight, assume
>>> that you and I were wrong...
>>
>>How was it for you then?
>
>Unusually easy. After squinting at the bare bit of visible thread I
>decided that it must be RH - so set about it with the largest
>lumphammer I have. It didn't budge. Ah, must be LH thread then, hit
>it lots more.
>
>At some point, can't quite recall when, I remembered someone
>mentioning "beating the **** out of the valve", so I adopted this
>strategy along with a tribal chant of screaming "move you bastard" at
>the top of my voice.
>
>The valve broke clean at the neck.
>
>Holding the bend and deformed valve high in praise of the great
>architect of the gas bottle - I noticed a couple of the neighbours
>looking over the gate, at me, the valve, then in dismay at the gas
>bottle.
>
>"alright?" they asked. "Yes", I replied, and smiled.
>

yet more strange goings on at poggle wood.... "What now" they must be
thinking!
--

Simon Isaacs

"Bad officials are elected by good citizens who do not vote"
George Jean Nathan (1882-1955)
 
On Tue, 02 May 2006 14:23:26 +0100, Mother <"@ {mother} @"@101fc.net>
scribbled the following nonsense:

>Possibly a quite silly thing to do - but as one approaches retirement
>one needs a little excitement...
>
>I'm planning to make a Brazier (for burning, not holdin' boobs) out of
>a blue Butane bottle. I've vented it for a few days, then sank it in
>the waterbut and filled it - probably 75 percent full of water. It's
>sodding impossible to get the valve out of the top, so what I'm sort
>of thinking about doing is drilling it - below the waterline, like
>this:
>
>
> __=__
> ( )
> |~~~~~|
> |WATER|
> |_____|<==
> | |
>
>A couple of 3/8 holes, let the water drain, then leave it for another
>few days before taking the angle grinder to it.
>
>Am I about to kill myself with this strategy?

Right, finshed mine, including a test burn as well! I have created a
web page at:
http://www.peterborough4x4.btinternet.co.uk/burner.htm
--

Simon Isaacs

"Bad officials are elected by good citizens who do not vote"
George Jean Nathan (1882-1955)
 
On Wed, 03 May 2006 21:50:25 +0100, Simon Isaacs <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Right, finshed mine, including a test burn as well! I have created a
>web page at:
>http://www.peterborough4x4.btinternet.co.uk/burner.htm

FANTASTIC!

Somewhat more sophisticated than my simple brazier, too.

Tommorow night - I get the angle grinder out... :)


--
"We have gone from a world of concentrated knowledge and wisdom to one
of distributed ignorance. And we know and understand less while being
increasingly capable." Prof. Peter Cochrane, formerly of BT Labs
In memory of Brian {Hamilton Kelly} who logged off 15th September 2005
 
"Mother" <"@ {mother} @"@101fc.net> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Wed, 03 May 2006 21:50:25 +0100, Simon Isaacs <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>Right, finshed mine, including a test burn as well! I have created a
>>web page at:
>>http://www.peterborough4x4.btinternet.co.uk/burner.htm
>
> FANTASTIC!
>
> Somewhat more sophisticated than my simple brazier, too.
>
> Tommorow night - I get the angle grinder out... :)

Yeah looks trick...can't wait for my gas to run out now :)

Is Mrs I doing a line in stowage bags for the caravan / 101.

I could get all arty with the Plasma cutter... bacon cooked with "unoffical"
toasted across it....

Martyn.. you could use it to heat the water for the shower doofer with a
built in exchanger and plug it in to tanks on Grumble... that way when you
go to Africa you can be safe in the knowledge that the Lions and Tigers will
be kept at bay by the fire while you take a bush shower.


 
Mother wrote:

> On Wed, 03 May 2006 21:50:25 +0100, Simon Isaacs <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>
>>Right, finshed mine, including a test burn as well! I have created a
>>web page at:
>>http://www.peterborough4x4.btinternet.co.uk/burner.htm
>
>
> FANTASTIC!
>
> Somewhat more sophisticated than my simple brazier, too.
>
> Tommorow night - I get the angle grinder out... :)


Here's another route:
http://www.bikerlifestyle.co.uk/tech/workshop/heater.html

I've seen other articles in the same vein but, naturally, can't find
them when needed!
 
Mother" <"@ {mother} @ wrote:
> On Wed, 3 May 2006 14:31:48 +0100, "Lee_D"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>> Kind of what I am hoping - if I don't post after 7pm tonight, assume
>>> that you and I were wrong...
>>
>> How was it for you then?
>
> Unusually easy. After squinting at the bare bit of visible thread I
> decided that it must be RH - so set about it with the largest
> lumphammer I have. It didn't budge. Ah, must be LH thread then, hit
> it lots more.
>
> At some point, can't quite recall when, I remembered someone
> mentioning "beating the **** out of the valve", so I adopted this
> strategy along with a tribal chant of screaming "move you bastard" at
> the top of my voice.
>
> The valve broke clean at the neck.
>
> Holding the bend and deformed valve high in praise of the great
> architect of the gas bottle - I noticed a couple of the neighbours
> looking over the gate, at me, the valve, then in dismay at the gas
> bottle.
>
> "alright?" they asked. "Yes", I replied, and smiled.

I'm glad the earth did not move for you in this instance!

I have a crazy acquaintance over here that used an old 100kg gas bottle as a
hookah (diving) air reserve bottle - just to allow more air to be stored in
the system in case the fuel ran out of his air compressor on board. He
brazed the air hose unions to the cylinder - or to be more exact, he paid
someone else to do it as I'd refused to take an oxy torch to an used gas
cylinder. Lord knows how he got rid of the foul taste within the bottle
though, but he used it successfully for many years till he retired from
diving. He's now a gold miner up on the Palmer River (go to Cairns & turn
NW). And just as insane, he's wondering how to separate his gold from the
tailings, thinking of using mercury & then distilling it out.

Karen

--
"I'd far rather be happy than right any day."
- Slartibartfast


 
Karen Gallagher wrote:
>
> And just as insane, he's wondering how to separate his gold from the
> tailings, thinking of using mercury & then distilling it out.

Hmmmm..... glad to see that those types of lunatic aren't just confined
to this side of the tasman. ;-)


--
EMB
 
On Wed, 03 May 2006 19:46:35 +0100, Mother <"@ {mother} @"@101fc.net>
wrote:

>At some point, can't quite recall when, I remembered someone
>mentioning "beating the **** out of the valve", so I adopted this
>strategy along with a tribal chant of screaming "move you bastard" at
>the top of my voice.

I often have trouble with instructions - I'll forget or skip them or
do them in the wrong way.. but i've never gone wrong with that one! :)

 
On Wed, 03 May 2006 23:50:33 +0100, Steve Taylor
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Seen some incredibly efficient woodburning cooking stove plans too -
>using small PC fans to force convect the fires

It's a bit of a hobby with me, small stoves. Forced draught makes a
load of difference to combustion performance. A researcher at Phillips
has produced a stove with a fan powered from a cheapish thermoelectric
generator, the aim is to mass produce them cheaply for those 2 billion
people that still cook using wood stoves.

AJH

 
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