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Mark Solesbury
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WTF is a rivinut, and how do you install them?
All i want to do is fit a snorkel!
Mark
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All i want to do is fit a snorkel!
Mark
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Mother
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On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 19:30:31 -0000, "Mark Solesbury"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>WTF is a rivinut, and how do you install them?
>
>All i want to do is fit a snorkel!
It's a rivet _and_ a nut. IOW, you put it in like a rivet, however
the head, instead of being a little round hole, is actually threaded -
to make a nut.
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<[email protected]> wrote:
>WTF is a rivinut, and how do you install them?
>
>All i want to do is fit a snorkel!
It's a rivet _and_ a nut. IOW, you put it in like a rivet, however
the head, instead of being a little round hole, is actually threaded -
to make a nut.
--
"We have gone from a world of concentrated knowledge and wisdom to one
of distributed ignorance. And we know and understand less while being
increasingly capable." Prof. Peter Cochrane, formerly of BT Labs
In memory of Brian {Hamilton Kelly} who logged off 15th September 2005
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Steve
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Mother wrote:
> It's a rivet _and_ a nut. IOW, you put it in like a rivet, however
> the head, instead of being a little round hole, is actually threaded -
> to make a nut.
>
>
And you set them with nut and bolt. Put the nut right down the bolt to
the head and right through the rivnut, then unscrew the nut down the
bolt, while holding the head of the bolt steady. The nut pulls the core
of the rivnut against the panel and locks it.
Steve
> It's a rivet _and_ a nut. IOW, you put it in like a rivet, however
> the head, instead of being a little round hole, is actually threaded -
> to make a nut.
>
>
And you set them with nut and bolt. Put the nut right down the bolt to
the head and right through the rivnut, then unscrew the nut down the
bolt, while holding the head of the bolt steady. The nut pulls the core
of the rivnut against the panel and locks it.
Steve
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or you can buy the tool for installing them. which is just an adaption on the old rivet gun
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Nige
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Mark Solesbury wrote:
> WTF is a rivinut, and how do you install them?
>
> All i want to do is fit a snorkel!
>
> Mark
> 9090
They have a brand name round here of Gesipa Bushes i believe!
Nige
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> WTF is a rivinut, and how do you install them?
>
> All i want to do is fit a snorkel!
>
> Mark
> 9090
They have a brand name round here of Gesipa Bushes i believe!
Nige
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Richard Brookman
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....and Steve spake unto the tribes of Usenet, saying...
> Mother wrote:
>
>> It's a rivet _and_ a nut. IOW, you put it in like a rivet, however
>> the head, instead of being a little round hole, is actually threaded
>> - to make a nut.
>>
>>
>
> And you set them with nut and bolt. Put the nut right down the bolt to
> the head and right through the rivnut, then unscrew the nut down the
> bolt, while holding the head of the bolt steady. The nut pulls the
> core of the rivnut against the panel and locks it.
>
>
> Steve
Do you know where you can get them? As in another thread, I am moving the
rear ladder over to the new car and I need a few.
--
Rich
==============================
Disco 300 Tdi auto
S2a 88" SW
Tiggrr (V8 trialler)
> Mother wrote:
>
>> It's a rivet _and_ a nut. IOW, you put it in like a rivet, however
>> the head, instead of being a little round hole, is actually threaded
>> - to make a nut.
>>
>>
>
> And you set them with nut and bolt. Put the nut right down the bolt to
> the head and right through the rivnut, then unscrew the nut down the
> bolt, while holding the head of the bolt steady. The nut pulls the
> core of the rivnut against the panel and locks it.
>
>
> Steve
Do you know where you can get them? As in another thread, I am moving the
rear ladder over to the new car and I need a few.
--
Rich
==============================
Disco 300 Tdi auto
S2a 88" SW
Tiggrr (V8 trialler)
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Steve
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Richard Brookman wrote:
> Do you know where you can get them? As in another thread, I am moving the
> rear ladder over to the new car and I need a few.
What size ? I have some M10, but that does seem a bit big.There are some
M8 and M6, somewhere. Let me know what you want.
Steve
> Do you know where you can get them? As in another thread, I am moving the
> rear ladder over to the new car and I need a few.
What size ? I have some M10, but that does seem a bit big.There are some
M8 and M6, somewhere. Let me know what you want.
Steve
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Alex
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On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 20:35:00 +0000, Steve
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Mother wrote:
>
>> It's a rivet _and_ a nut. IOW, you put it in like a rivet, however
>> the head, instead of being a little round hole, is actually threaded -
>> to make a nut.
>>
>>
>
>And you set them with nut and bolt. Put the nut right down the bolt to
>the head and right through the rivnut, then unscrew the nut down the
>bolt, while holding the head of the bolt steady. The nut pulls the core
>of the rivnut against the panel and locks it.
>
>
There is actually a proper tool for inserting them. Which is far
quicker if you have a lot to do.
Alex
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Mother wrote:
>
>> It's a rivet _and_ a nut. IOW, you put it in like a rivet, however
>> the head, instead of being a little round hole, is actually threaded -
>> to make a nut.
>>
>>
>
>And you set them with nut and bolt. Put the nut right down the bolt to
>the head and right through the rivnut, then unscrew the nut down the
>bolt, while holding the head of the bolt steady. The nut pulls the core
>of the rivnut against the panel and locks it.
>
>
There is actually a proper tool for inserting them. Which is far
quicker if you have a lot to do.
Alex
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Nige
Guest
Alex wrote:
> On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 20:35:00 +0000, Steve
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Mother wrote:
>>
>>> It's a rivet _and_ a nut. IOW, you put it in like a rivet, however
>>> the head, instead of being a little round hole, is actually
>>> threaded - to make a nut.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> And you set them with nut and bolt. Put the nut right down the bolt
>> to the head and right through the rivnut, then unscrew the nut down
>> the bolt, while holding the head of the bolt steady. The nut pulls
>> the core of the rivnut against the panel and locks it.
>>
>>
>
> There is actually a proper tool for inserting them. Which is far
> quicker if you have a lot to do.
>
> Alex
It's like a rivet gun with a screw thread 'shaft' yes?
Nige
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> On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 20:35:00 +0000, Steve
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Mother wrote:
>>
>>> It's a rivet _and_ a nut. IOW, you put it in like a rivet, however
>>> the head, instead of being a little round hole, is actually
>>> threaded - to make a nut.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> And you set them with nut and bolt. Put the nut right down the bolt
>> to the head and right through the rivnut, then unscrew the nut down
>> the bolt, while holding the head of the bolt steady. The nut pulls
>> the core of the rivnut against the panel and locks it.
>>
>>
>
> There is actually a proper tool for inserting them. Which is far
> quicker if you have a lot to do.
>
> Alex
It's like a rivet gun with a screw thread 'shaft' yes?
Nige
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Range Rover LSE (Bob)
'"gimme the f*ckin' money"
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Steve
Guest
Nige wrote:
>>
>> There is actually a proper tool for inserting them. Which is far
>> quicker if you have a lot to do.
>>
>> Alex
>
> It's like a rivet gun with a screw thread 'shaft' yes?
>
They are, 'kin 'kin expensive though.
So the nuts and bolt methods is pretty good....
Steve
>>
>> There is actually a proper tool for inserting them. Which is far
>> quicker if you have a lot to do.
>>
>> Alex
>
> It's like a rivet gun with a screw thread 'shaft' yes?
>
They are, 'kin 'kin expensive though.
So the nuts and bolt methods is pretty good....
Steve
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Steve
Guest
Nige wrote:
> It's like a rivet gun with a screw thread 'shaft' yes?
Yes.
Steve
> It's like a rivet gun with a screw thread 'shaft' yes?
Yes.
Steve
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Richard Brookman
Guest
....and Steve spake unto the tribes of Usenet, saying...
> Richard Brookman wrote:
>
>> Do you know where you can get them? As in another thread, I am
>> moving the rear ladder over to the new car and I need a few.
>
> What size ? I have some M10, but that does seem a bit big.There are
> some M8 and M6, somewhere. Let me know what you want.
>
> Steve
Well, it's got to support a rear ladder which will take my weight, so M500
sounds right
ISTR the holes I drilled originally were about 5mm, if that makes sense.
This is a new fitting, though, so I can drill to suit.
--
Rich
==============================
Disco 300 Tdi auto
S2a 88" SW
Tiggrr (V8 trialler)
> Richard Brookman wrote:
>
>> Do you know where you can get them? As in another thread, I am
>> moving the rear ladder over to the new car and I need a few.
>
> What size ? I have some M10, but that does seem a bit big.There are
> some M8 and M6, somewhere. Let me know what you want.
>
> Steve
Well, it's got to support a rear ladder which will take my weight, so M500
sounds right
ISTR the holes I drilled originally were about 5mm, if that makes sense.
This is a new fitting, though, so I can drill to suit.
--
Rich
==============================
Disco 300 Tdi auto
S2a 88" SW
Tiggrr (V8 trialler)
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Idris
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"Nige" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Mark Solesbury wrote:
> > WTF is a rivinut, and how do you install them?
> >
> > All i want to do is fit a snorkel!
> >
> > Mark
> > 9090
>
> They have a brand name round here of Gesipa Bushes i believe!
>
> Nige
>
> --
> Subaru WRX
> Range Rover LSE (Bob)
>
> '"gimme the f*ckin' money"
>
>
I got some from Car Builder Solutions Tel: 01580 891309.
Gerald
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Austin Shackles
Guest
On or around Wed, 11 Jan 2006 23:37:38 +0000, Steve
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>Nige wrote:
>>>
>>> There is actually a proper tool for inserting them. Which is far
>>> quicker if you have a lot to do.
>>>
>>> Alex
>>
>> It's like a rivet gun with a screw thread 'shaft' yes?
>>
>
>They are, 'kin 'kin expensive though.
>
>So the nuts and bolt methods is pretty good....
but only if you can get access to the other side of the panel. Which
slightly defeats the object - if the other side of the panel is accessible,
nothing to stop you fitting an ordinary nut to it... The particular benefit
of the rivnuts, AIUI, is the ability to insert 'em into blind spaces.
don't they need a square hole? If not, what stops the bugger going round
inside when you try to remove the bolt?
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too" Sir Francis Drake (1540? - 1596) Attr. saying when the Armarda was
sighted, 20th July 1588
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>Nige wrote:
>>>
>>> There is actually a proper tool for inserting them. Which is far
>>> quicker if you have a lot to do.
>>>
>>> Alex
>>
>> It's like a rivet gun with a screw thread 'shaft' yes?
>>
>
>They are, 'kin 'kin expensive though.
>
>So the nuts and bolt methods is pretty good....
but only if you can get access to the other side of the panel. Which
slightly defeats the object - if the other side of the panel is accessible,
nothing to stop you fitting an ordinary nut to it... The particular benefit
of the rivnuts, AIUI, is the ability to insert 'em into blind spaces.
don't they need a square hole? If not, what stops the bugger going round
inside when you try to remove the bolt?
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
"There is plenty of time to win this game, and to thrash the Spaniards
too" Sir Francis Drake (1540? - 1596) Attr. saying when the Armarda was
sighted, 20th July 1588
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Tom Woods
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On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 19:51:12 +0000, Mother <"@ {mother} @"@101fc.net>
wrote:
>On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 19:30:31 -0000, "Mark Solesbury"
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>WTF is a rivinut, and how do you install them?
>>
>>All i want to do is fit a snorkel!
>
>It's a rivet _and_ a nut. IOW, you put it in like a rivet, however
>the head, instead of being a little round hole, is actually threaded -
>to make a nut.
Is that what those avdelock rivets that i see referenced to in sixstud
are like? (I've never noticed any special rivets on my 101 but ive
only really played with the Marshalls bit of it not the LR bit)
wrote:
>On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 19:30:31 -0000, "Mark Solesbury"
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>WTF is a rivinut, and how do you install them?
>>
>>All i want to do is fit a snorkel!
>
>It's a rivet _and_ a nut. IOW, you put it in like a rivet, however
>the head, instead of being a little round hole, is actually threaded -
>to make a nut.
Is that what those avdelock rivets that i see referenced to in sixstud
are like? (I've never noticed any special rivets on my 101 but ive
only really played with the Marshalls bit of it not the LR bit)
slob
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i believe you can get them from demon tweeks
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beamendsltd
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In message <[email protected]>
Austin Shackles <[email protected]> wrote:
> On or around Wed, 11 Jan 2006 23:37:38 +0000, Steve
> <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>
> >Nige wrote:
> >>>
> >>> There is actually a proper tool for inserting them. Which is far
> >>> quicker if you have a lot to do.
> >>>
> >>> Alex
> >>
> >> It's like a rivet gun with a screw thread 'shaft' yes?
> >>
> >
> >They are, 'kin 'kin expensive though.
> >
> >So the nuts and bolt methods is pretty good....
>
> but only if you can get access to the other side of the panel. Which
> slightly defeats the object - if the other side of the panel is accessible,
> nothing to stop you fitting an ordinary nut to it... The particular benefit
> of the rivnuts, AIUI, is the ability to insert 'em into blind spaces.
>
> don't they need a square hole? If not, what stops the bugger going round
> inside when you try to remove the bolt?
>
Front the sound of it, rivnuts are another name for nuserts. To fit
nutserts you can just get a bit if tube (with a "handle" welded on
idealy) and a bolt through it. Place it with the nutsert on the end where
it needs to go and tighten the bolt against the tube (the end of the
nutsert is threaded) which crushes it into place on the body/chassis/
whatever. Unecrsew the bolt, remove the tube and off you go.
Richard
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Austin Shackles <[email protected]> wrote:
> On or around Wed, 11 Jan 2006 23:37:38 +0000, Steve
> <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>
> >Nige wrote:
> >>>
> >>> There is actually a proper tool for inserting them. Which is far
> >>> quicker if you have a lot to do.
> >>>
> >>> Alex
> >>
> >> It's like a rivet gun with a screw thread 'shaft' yes?
> >>
> >
> >They are, 'kin 'kin expensive though.
> >
> >So the nuts and bolt methods is pretty good....
>
> but only if you can get access to the other side of the panel. Which
> slightly defeats the object - if the other side of the panel is accessible,
> nothing to stop you fitting an ordinary nut to it... The particular benefit
> of the rivnuts, AIUI, is the ability to insert 'em into blind spaces.
>
> don't they need a square hole? If not, what stops the bugger going round
> inside when you try to remove the bolt?
>
Front the sound of it, rivnuts are another name for nuserts. To fit
nutserts you can just get a bit if tube (with a "handle" welded on
idealy) and a bolt through it. Place it with the nutsert on the end where
it needs to go and tighten the bolt against the tube (the end of the
nutsert is threaded) which crushes it into place on the body/chassis/
whatever. Unecrsew the bolt, remove the tube and off you go.
Richard
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Steve Taylor
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Austin Shackles wrote:
>> So the nuts and bolt methods is pretty good....
>
> but only if you can get access to the other side of the panel.
No, you pull it all from the front, not squashing it from the back
aces.
>
> don't they need a square hole? If not, what stops the bugger going round
> inside when you try to remove the bolt?
By then its clamped like buggery to the panel....
Steve
>> So the nuts and bolt methods is pretty good....
>
> but only if you can get access to the other side of the panel.
No, you pull it all from the front, not squashing it from the back
aces.
>
> don't they need a square hole? If not, what stops the bugger going round
> inside when you try to remove the bolt?
By then its clamped like buggery to the panel....
Steve
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[email protected]
Guest
Austin Shackles wrote:
> >So the nuts and bolt methods is pretty good....
>
> but only if you can get access to the other side of the panel. Which
> slightly defeats the object - if the other side of the panel is accessible,
> nothing to stop you fitting an ordinary nut to it... The particular benefit
> of the rivnuts, AIUI, is the ability to insert 'em into blind spaces.
No, you're not understanding that correctly Austin, the method
described only requires access from one side, and is a pretty good
method really. I have a tool for doing them and it is quicker with it,
but both give you the same result.
> don't they need a square hole? If not, what stops the bugger going round
> inside when you try to remove the bolt?
Round hole, part of the nut has collapsed in a engineered way and
pressed against the panel/sheet whatever and is holding that tight so
the bolt removes easily. They are really handy things.
Regards
William MacLeod
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Austin Shackles
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On or around Thu, 12 Jan 2006 11:42:02 +0000, Steve Taylor
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>Austin Shackles wrote:
>
>>> So the nuts and bolt methods is pretty good....
>>
>> but only if you can get access to the other side of the panel.
>
>No, you pull it all from the front, not squashing it from the back
>aces.
ah. I misunderstood your comments.
>> don't they need a square hole? If not, what stops the bugger going round
>> inside when you try to remove the bolt?
>By then its clamped like buggery to the panel....
hmmmm.
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"My centre is giving way, my right is in retreat; situation excellent.
I shall attack. - Marshal Foch (1851 - 1929)
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>Austin Shackles wrote:
>
>>> So the nuts and bolt methods is pretty good....
>>
>> but only if you can get access to the other side of the panel.
>
>No, you pull it all from the front, not squashing it from the back
>aces.
ah. I misunderstood your comments.
>> don't they need a square hole? If not, what stops the bugger going round
>> inside when you try to remove the bolt?
>By then its clamped like buggery to the panel....
hmmmm.
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
"My centre is giving way, my right is in retreat; situation excellent.
I shall attack. - Marshal Foch (1851 - 1929)
