P38A ring gear and starter damaged again

mjb.thomassen · May 22, 2020

p38 gems 1994 4.6hse
Within 6000km the ring gear and starter are damaged again.It starts but often with crushing noise.
I hoped it would be better with a brand new starter .....but .the gear has at the dead point too much damage.
I do not have time coming months to change the gear so my question is ....would it help for a period of time to turn the ring gear for 1/4.
With 4 cilinder engines it helps because they alway come back at the same spot but is that also the case with 8 cilinder engines.

dubbleRR · May 22, 2020

mjb.thomassen said:
.would it help for a period of time to turn the ring gear for 1/4.
With 4 cilinder engines it helps because they alway come back at the same spot but is that also the case with 8 cilinder engines.

Could try blipping the throttle just be4 switching the engine off might stop in a different place ..

...RR..

mjb.thomassen · May 22, 2020

we just checked the starter ring all over but the ring is too far gone.even when the start of the turning is ok it slips out half way.So I ll have to do the renewal all over again.

mjb.thomassen · May 22, 2020

my next question is how come that a starter and ring are damaged already within such a short period .They were new and were replaced by a experienced land rover mechanic.

Stanleysteamer · May 22, 2020

mjb.thomassen said:
my next question is how come that a starter and ring are damaged already within such a short period .They were new and were replaced by a experienced land rover mechanic.

One is tempted to ask how you know they were actually both replaced. Bearing in mind the labour involved in changing the ring gear.

Henry_b · May 22, 2020

As said, it is hard to tell whether it has been replaced..

Unless you pop off the inspection cover off the bottom of the bellhousing and poke a torch in there

Grrrrrr · May 22, 2020

Was it the right starter? The diesel one is different but it might be possible to fit it. Diesel one is Bosch. V8 ones I have seen were Lucas.

Marshall8hp · May 23, 2020

If the starter pinion is incorrect it will chew up a ring gear in no time flat. A new ring gear and starter should last the life of the engine.

mjb.thomassen · May 23, 2020

both where new It was done when I already owned the car a few years ago.

dubbleRR · May 23, 2020

A new starter can cover up a worn ring gear,if there is no teeth missing on the ring gear,,,There is possibility that a new outer ring on the flywheel was fitted but at the wrong temperature [Expanded over the old flywheel] it makes the metal soft ,not tempered ,

wont last long

......RR...

P38A ring gear and starter damaged again

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