Reverse Gear Plunger

jamesmartin said:

there isnt usually any clip the detent you did remove holds plunger in

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Just it looked like there was some kind of clip at the front where plunger comes out, not sure if it will stop it from pulling out or not. will find out tomorrow.

This is it here James https://www.brit-car.co.uk/product.php/611576/0/spring_clip_steel_gearchange_lt77___defender

border said:

Just it looked like there was some kind of clip at the front where plunger comes out, not sure if it will stop it from pulling out or not. will find out tomorrow.

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its possible cant say ive seen one

jamesmartin said:

its possible cant say ive seen one

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Not really a Circlip, not sure how I will remove it, to get plunger out.

border said:

Not really a Circlip, not sure how I will remove it, to get plunger out.

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its a spring clip,prise it out with a little flat screw driver ,but as i said maybe once fitted but not on any ive done for years

jamesmartin said:

its a spring clip,prise it out with a little flat screw driver ,but as i said maybe once fitted but not on any ive done for years

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OK Thanks again for all you help, will report back tomorrow night on progress.
Cheers Mate

I'm on with it now. Got it all apart, cleaned and greased and back together. In Pic The Plunger wil spring in and out perfect Until the big nut on top is tightened down further then it will not move at all. What the hell have I done now, it is assembled back the exact way it came apart.

In your pic, there isn't a locknut ?

This might help:

If it doesn't have a locknut it maybe a different type of reverse plunger, might explain the circlip too ...

This one, 13, does and no locknut; so not adjustable :

Think I've got it. I fitted it back on and gradually turned the big nut A on your diagram till it was closed whilst putting it in and out of reverse . Reverse goes in Good now with big nut closed but the more I loosen that big nut the Easier it gets.

border said:

I'm on with it now. Got it all apart, cleaned and greased and back together. In Pic The Plunger wil spring in and out perfect Until the big nut on top is tightened down further then it will not move at all. What the hell have I done now, it is assembled back the exact way it came apart.

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thats correct some are adjustable to weaken or strengthen the push with lever needed to engage reverse,to weak and when selecting 1st youll slip in reverse

jamesmartin said:

thats correct some are adjustable to weaken or strengthen the push with lever needed to engage reverse,to weak and when selecting 1st youll slip in reverse

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Dippypud said:

If it doesn't have a locknut it maybe a different type of reverse plunger, might explain the circlip too ...

This one, 13, does and no locknut; so not adjustable :

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They must be diferent as your first diagram says Earlier Models second / mine,

must be later .
Anyway didn't put the Cirspring thingy back on as it shot across the garage when I finally prized it out, never to be seen again,

jamesmartin said:

thats correct some are adjustable to weaken or strengthen the push with lever needed to engage reverse,to weak and when selecting 1st youll slip in reverse

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It seems not to bad now with big nut closed, can get all gears including Reverse but it is only closed Finger Tight, shall I just leave it at that. ?

border said:

They must be diferent as your first diagram says Earlier Models second / mine,

must be later .
Anyway didn't put the Cirspring thingy back on as it shot across the garage when I finally prized it out, never to be seen again,


It seems not to bad now with big nut closed, can get all gears including Reverse but it is only closed Finger Tight, shall I just leave it at that. ?

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as long as the plunger is tight enough to stop you accidentally selecting reverse when going for first, whenlightly resting on the plunger the lever should move forward or back straight into 1st or 2nd if not the spacers adjust that

jamesmartin said:

as long as the plunger is tight enough to stop you accidentally selecting reverse when going for first, whenlightly resting on the plunger the lever should move forward or back straight into 1st or 2nd if not the spacers adjust that

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Right will test that tomorrow, you can hear a kind of clank when it hits reverse so know when you have it, if you know what I mean.
I would like to get a load of Grease down in to the rest of the workings but don't want to take anything else apart unless I have to. Cant find any Grease Nipples .

border said:

Right will test that tomorrow, you can hear a kind of clank when it hits reverse so know when you have it, if you know what I mean.
I would like to get a load of Grease down in to the rest of the workings but don't want to take anything else apart unless I have to. Cant find any Grease Nipples .

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clank when you go across or when lever goes forward to engage

jamesmartin said:

clank when you go across or when lever goes forward to engage

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Think its when it goes forward and drops in to reverse position

border said:

Think its when it goes forward and drops in to reverse position

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thats normal its the idler gear sliding forward and hitting its stop inside the box

jamesmartin said:

thats normal its the idler gear sliding forward and hitting its stop inside the box

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Thank God thought you were going to say it was wrong
Does it need grease down under the big ball at bottom of Stick, it is moving OK but would rather get some in now while tunnels off.

border said:

Thank God thought you were going to say it was wrong
Does it need grease down under the big ball at bottom of Stick, it is moving OK but would rather get some in now while tunnels off.

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yes liberally daub the lever end and add some on end of plunger

jamesmartin said:

yes liberally daub the lever end and add some on end of plunger

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OK Mate Thanks,