Retrofit PAS...?

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My MOD 110 n/a has no PAS and is so.fekkin.heavy.!

I've seen that the PAS fitted on 110s is all just gubbins... i.e., not part of the steering rack... so would be it be possible to retrofit all the required in to my 110?
 
This is somthing im going to be looking into when Ive sorted all the other bits and got her a mot. I think the pas box from a 200tdi is a straight fit but as for the pas pump and other gubbins that would be engine dependant I would imagin. No doubt there are a load of people on here that have done it and will correct me if i'm wrong.
 
There are many ways that you can fit power steering to your 110. The simplest involves buying a complete setup from ebay or from someone on here which comes complete with the power steering box, pump, pipes and fluid reservoir. There are engine specific pumps, by that I mean you can buy a pump that is designed to fit on the TD, the 200TDi as well as the 300TDi and so on, the only differences being the shape / size of the pump as well as how they mount to the engine (different brackets). You can (in theory) mix and match these parts, the only problem you will run into is mounting the pump to the engine and getting the pipework to reach. Each of the engines has a different bracket in place in order to support the pump, all in slightly different places. Your best bet, if you have a 200TDi, would be to buy a 200TDi power steering pump, it can be from the Discovery or the Defender variant of the engine. This will bolt straight onto your engine bracket which also supports the alternator. You will then need to source a set of Defender power steering pipes. As far as I'm ware, you can not use Discovery power steering pipes on a Defender what with them being different shapes and lengths. If you decide to use a TD or 300TDi pump, you could adapt the bracket on the engine to make the pump fit - they're not too different.

You also need to find a power steering box that matches your current manual steering box with regards to how many bolts fix it to the chassis. Boxes come in different varieties such as 3 bolt and 4 bolt for example. You'll more than likely find that most of the power steering boxes on ebay have a Discovery drop arm. You need to swap this for a Defender drop arm, or simply buy a steering box with the Defender drop arm already in place. It'll cost you a bit more mind.

-Pos
 
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No problem. You could really make anything fit providing you had the patience and the know how, although it'd be daft considering how many disco / rangerover boxes there are available. It's one thing I still need to do to my 90. I've got a manual setup with about 30 degrees of slack in the steering wheel. That's with the adjuster bolt wound right in too. It does make for a much nicer drive too (although I don't like to admit it!)

-Pos
 
No problem. You could really make anything fit providing you had the patience and the know how, although it'd be daft considering how many disco / rangerover boxes there are available. It's one thing I still need to do to my 90. I've got a manual setup with about 30 degrees of slack in the steering wheel. That's with the adjuster bolt wound right in too. It does make for a much nicer drive too (although I don't like to admit it!)

-Pos

What makes it a nicer drive? The 30 degrees of slack or the pas :D:D:D
 
Have you checked your drop arm and drag link ball joints? They can account for a fair bit of play at the steering wheel.

Yeah I sat in the cab spinning my wheel from right to left whilst my local specialist did all the hard work clenching at my landy's rods and balls from underneath ;) All was fine. Just a hell of a lot of slack in the box unfortunately.

-Pos
 
My MOD 110 n/a has no PAS and is so.fekkin.heavy.!

I've seen that the PAS fitted on 110s is all just gubbins... i.e., not part of the steering rack... so would be it be possible to retrofit all the required in to my 110?


I've just done this mod to my 2.5 na diesel 90, got all the whole lot from a local breakers, like you say eveything just bolts on. i'm no mechanic and found it fairly straight forward to do. all the parts came off a 200tdi.
 
I've just done this mod to my 2.5 na diesel 90, got all the whole lot from a local breakers, like you say eveything just bolts on. i'm no mechanic and found it fairly straight forward to do. all the parts came off a 200tdi.

thanks Mostin for letting me know. that's really interesting. could you perhaps list all the parts you needed? there are no breakers over here so i might try contacting some in England. thanks a lot.
 
Yeah I sat in the cab spinning my wheel from right to left whilst my local specialist did all the hard work clenching at my landy's rods and balls from underneath ;) All was fine. Just a hell of a lot of slack in the box unfortunately.

-Pos

Thats the same as mine, sure does keep you alert on the motorway when you get a nice strong sidewind!

I checked all the balljoints a while back which were fine and tightened in the screw with little effect, does it really matter how far you screw it in?? as i heard turning it too far damaged the pump??

Ollie
 
thanks Mostin for letting me know. that's really interesting. could you perhaps list all the parts you needed? there are no breakers over here so i might try contacting some in England. thanks a lot.

No problem
1. Power steering box.
2. power steering pump.
3. power steering reservoir.
4. flow and return pipes from reservoir to pump and steering box.
5. crank pully wheel that takes two belts and a power steering belt.
6. and alternator bracket which holds the punp.

he also gave me the brackets to secure the pipe work and all nuts and bolts to mount everything, whole lot cost £200, sounds a lot when you look at all the bits but worth every penny.
 
Thats the same as mine, sure does keep you alert on the motorway when you get a nice strong sidewind!

I checked all the balljoints a while back which were fine and tightened in the screw with little effect, does it really matter how far you screw it in?? as i heard turning it too far damaged the pump??

Ollie

It certainly does, especially in the truck ruts on the inside lane. When you say you wound it all the way in, are you referring to the steering box 'wear' compensator grub screw at the top? Mine is not far off being all the way in, once it gets that far, I'm swapping it for PAS. The damage that it can cause is purely more wear unfortunately. The steering will become tighter to the left / right and it may not self centre - not that mine ever has :rolleyes: It's an all hands on, full alert job driving a manual steering 90, let alone a 110.

-Pos
 
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