Registering a Land Rover in Britain for foreigners?

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Raoul Donschachner

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• Sep 13, 2004

• #1

Hi,

me, as an Austrian fellow, is thinking about buying a Land Rover in
Britain (a used and old one) so I wonder what one (from a EC country)
needs to register a car in your country.

I just know, that it would be impossible for non-residents to register a
car here in Austria. You have to have proof of a permanent address in
Austria to register a car.

Is it the same in Britain or maybe better?

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Tom Woods

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• Sep 13, 2004

• #2

On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 14:49:05 +0200, [email protected]
(Raoul Donschachner) wrote:

>Hi,
>
>me, as an Austrian fellow, is thinking about buying a Land Rover in
>Britain (a used and old one) so I wonder what one (from a EC country)
>needs to register a car in your country.
>
>I just know, that it would be impossible for non-residents to register a
>car here in Austria. You have to have proof of a permanent address in
>Austria to register a car.
>
>Is it the same in Britain or maybe better?

You might find some useful stuff on http://www.dvla.gov.uk

Speaking as someone who has always lived here, ive never needed proof
of address to register anything, but you will need an address on the
documents as you generally have to send them off and wait for new ones
to come back to you.

 

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Raoul Donschachner

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• Sep 13, 2004

• #3

Tom Woods <[email protected]> wrote:

> You might find some useful stuff on http://www.dvla.gov.uk

Thanks a lot, looks as if it could be possible for me to register a
vehicle in GB. What I need next, is an address on your glory island

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Tom Woods

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• Sep 13, 2004

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On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 22:35:43 +0200, [email protected]
(Raoul Donschachner) wrote:

>Tom Woods <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> You might find some useful stuff on http://www.dvla.gov.uk
>
>Thanks a lot, looks as if it could be possible for me to register a
>vehicle in GB. What I need next, is an address on your glory island

Why would you want to register a car here when you didnt live here?

 

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Raoul Donschachner

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• Sep 13, 2004

• #5

Tom Woods <[email protected]> wrote:

> Why would you want to register a car here when you didnt live here?

Because here in Austria we can only register imported cars which fulfill
EURO3 emissions or cars that are older than 25 years.

And there are some Land Rovers in between

I also like the idea of having a non austrian licence plate, would fit
perfectly to the brit babes in my garage

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Tom Woods

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• Sep 13, 2004

• #6

On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 23:46:39 +0200, [email protected]
(Raoul Donschachner) wrote:

>Tom Woods <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Why would you want to register a car here when you didnt live here?
>
>Because here in Austria we can only register imported cars which fulfill
>EURO3 emissions or cars that are older than 25 years.

>And there are some Land Rovers in between

Aah. I get ya You want a car (a LR) that wont pass your emissions
stuff and is younger than 25?

Our emission stuff is all done in the annual test, and the test has
different criteria depending on the age of the vehicle.

>I also like the idea of having a non austrian licence plate, would fit
>perfectly to the brit babes in my garage

Hmm. i wonder how you go about doing this. You do know that we have to
pay road tax (probably £165 a year for most LR's) in order to use our
registered car on the road?. If you dont want to use it on the road
you have to declare it as off road, and renew this declaration every
12months (soon for a small fee), otherwise you get fines and stuff.

In order to get our road tax we also need a current MOT and insurance
on the car

With us both being in europe, im not sure what carries over across the
country border?. do you need to have a fully legal in the UK car in
order to have it on the road at home (and it be uk registered)?, or
can you let all the uk legal stuff lapse and just use your contries
equivalents of our tax and mot's, but with a uk registration. If you
do this, and then visit the UK youre gonna get a big fine if caught on
the road..

Have you thought this through much yet? .. sounds complicated!

>
>Raoul

 

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Eddy Bayton

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• Sep 14, 2004

• #7

Raoul Donschachner <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:1gk23om.1e6c4cx8g7k1sN%[email protected]...
> Hi,
>
> me, as an Austrian fellow, is thinking about buying a Land Rover in
> Britain (a used and old one) so I wonder what one (from a EC country)
> needs to register a car in your country.
>
> I just know, that it would be impossible for non-residents to register a
> car here in Austria. You have to have proof of a permanent address in
> Austria to register a car.
>
> Is it the same in Britain or maybe better?
>
> Raoul

Ever considered buying an Isle of Man registered Land Rover? I don't think
they even MOT vehicles there but are aiming to introduce testing for
vehicles over 10 years old by 2010!

It's loophole world on Fraggle Rock

Eddy

 

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Raoul Donschachner

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• Sep 14, 2004

• #8

Tom Woods <[email protected]> wrote:


> Aah. I get ya You want a car (a LR) that wont pass your emissions
> stuff and is younger than 25?

Not exactly, the problem is just during the process of the import of the
car. The first registration, our eqivalent for your MoT-tests would be
no problem.

> Our emission stuff is all done in the annual test, and the test has
> different criteria depending on the age of the vehicle.

Same here

> Hmm. i wonder how you go about doing this. You do know that we have to
> pay road tax (probably £165 a year for most LR's) in order to use our
> registered car on the road?. If you dont want to use it on the road
> you have to declare it as off road, and renew this declaration every
> 12months (soon for a small fee), otherwise you get fines and stuff.

Our road tax is even higher. It would be no problem to pay the british
fees as I would save money ;-)

Do I have to have a MoT-test to be able to pay the taxes and fees?

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Austin Shackles

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• Sep 14, 2004

• #9

On or around Mon, 13 Sep 2004 14:49:05 +0200, [email protected]
(Raoul Donschachner) enlightened us thusly:

>Hi,
>
>me, as an Austrian fellow, is thinking about buying a Land Rover in
>Britain (a used and old one) so I wonder what one (from a EC country)
>needs to register a car in your country.
>
>I just know, that it would be impossible for non-residents to register a
>car here in Austria. You have to have proof of a permanent address in
>Austria to register a car.
>
>Is it the same in Britain or maybe better?

the trucking magazines have gone into this a few times, WRT registering
trucks abroad (NL seems favourite) so as to avoid extortionate UK road
taxes.

The gist for holland was that you needed a Dutch address - ISTR that a
rented address would do provided it was a long-term let not just rented for
a week.

If you came to Britain to live for 6 months, say, and wanted to buy and use
a car, there has to be a system to do it. If you then travelled abroad with
it, it should still be OK, provided you pay all the necessary dues. do you
have road charging (tolls) in Austria?

 

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Raoul Donschachner

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• Sep 14, 2004

• #10

Austin Shackles <[email protected]> wrote:

> it, it should still be OK, provided you pay all the necessary dues. do you
> have road charging (tolls) in Austria?

The first tax is the one when a car hits the country, it is calculated
on the fuel consumption.
Then VAT

If you already own it, you have to pay the car tax which is dependent on
the hp of the engine

Further you need to pay a toll if you intend to use the motorways.

And if you park it, you get a parking ticket. If you drive it, you gess
it, a speeding ticket ;-)

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Tom Woods

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• Sep 14, 2004

• #11

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 12:25:48 +0200, [email protected]
(Raoul Donschachner) wrote:

>Our road tax is even higher. It would be no problem to pay the british
>fees as I would save money ;-)
>
>Do I have to have a MoT-test to be able to pay the taxes and fees?

Yes. In order to get the road tax you need a currently valid MOT, a
certificate of insurance and the registration document for the car.

The address on the insurance certificate and the registration
certificate must match, and the insurance certificate must specify the
cars registration no, or specify that it is for any car.

 

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Raoul Donschachner

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• Sep 14, 2004

• #12

Tom Woods <[email protected]> wrote:

> Yes. In order to get the road tax you need a currently valid MOT, a
> certificate of insurance and the registration document for the car.

I see, so the car has to be in Britain at least one time a year.

> The address on the insurance certificate and the registration
> certificate must match, and the insurance certificate must specify the
> cars registration no, or specify that it is for any car.

I already have an address from a friend who lives near London.

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Paul S. Brown

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• Sep 14, 2004

• #13

Tom Woods wrote:

> On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 12:25:48 +0200, [email protected]
> (Raoul Donschachner) wrote:
>
>>Our road tax is even higher. It would be no problem to pay the british
>>fees as I would save money ;-)
>>
>>Do I have to have a MoT-test to be able to pay the taxes and fees?
>
> Yes. In order to get the road tax you need a currently valid MOT, a
> certificate of insurance and the registration document for the car.
>
> The address on the insurance certificate and the registration
> certificate must match, and the insurance certificate must specify the
> cars registration no, or specify that it is for any car.

No current requirement to present the V5 if you have the renewal document,
and given that "registered keeper" and "Owner" are two different things I
don't see any requirement there to have the insurance matching the V5.

Just renewed the tax on my nameless Disco (suggestions anyone?) and I just
handed over the renewal document, the insurance cert, the MOT and my cash
card and they gave me a nice shiny new tax disc.

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Raoul Donschachner

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• Sep 14, 2004

• #14

Paul S. Brown <[email protected]> wrote:

> No current requirement to present the V5 if you have the renewal document,
> and given that "registered keeper" and "Owner" are two different things I
> don't see any requirement there to have the insurance matching the V5.

Owner and keeper would both be me, so this should not be a problem
anyway.

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Tom Woods

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• Sep 14, 2004

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On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 19:05:05 +0100, "Paul S. Brown"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>No current requirement to present the V5 if you have the renewal document,

good point! I always forget that since i keep sorning my cars and
rotating the tax (to get different combinations on the road, and due
to mechanical failures!)

>and given that "registered keeper" and "Owner" are two different things I
>don't see any requirement there to have the insurance matching the V5.

The post office nearest me wont give you tax when they dont match!. I
moved a year or so ago, and tried it. They let me do it, but only if i
sent off the V5 at the same time to get it changed to the insurance
address.
Ive had to change a few cars over now for the same reason. Its
annoying as i wanted to keep all the official documents going to my
parents house rather than where i'm currently living (and not planning
on staying permenantly)

>Just renewed the tax on my nameless Disco (suggestions anyone?) and I just
>handed over the renewal document, the insurance cert, the MOT and my cash
>card and they gave me a nice shiny new tax disc.

Tis more satisfying when its free
>
>P.