P38A Recommend wheel spacers please?

Jon Dor · May 10, 2020

Hi.
I put some 285/85/16 Insa Turbo Special Tracks on my P38 last week. Well before full lock, they fouled on the plastic inner wings, front mud guards and plastic front valance. Wondering if wheel spacers will resolve the issue. Bodyshop opposite the mooring took an air saw to obvious bits, but still rub before reaching full lock. Comments very welcome please. Mike.

Henry_b · May 10, 2020

Smaller wheels

Shippers · May 10, 2020

Return to standard fit...never wondered how engineers come up with wheel and tyre size to fit as standard?

brianp38dse · May 10, 2020

Wheel spacer will put more forward and backward movement on the steering it will give a bigger arc and more likely give you more clearance problems,and not the best idea on a 2.5 ton beast.

RangeRoller dt · May 10, 2020

Wheel spacers will the lock but have their own agenda.
You’ve gone bit too big for it not to be a nuisance of some sort.

I have 275/75 iirc and modded suspension for them to fit. If you drop to the bump stops you will crash

How do you like the road rumble?

Henry_b · May 11, 2020

Oh yes..

EAS fault as RRDT says..

Wouldn't want it dropping onto its arse with those tyres!!!!!!!!

Shippers · May 11, 2020

I'm always surprised on here the wheel and tyre questions...Portugal log book lists factory size for both as manufactor fitted for that model turn up for mot with anything else fail stopped at police routine check can be everyday wrong size fine...but there is a section that you can get different sizes on log book for same vehicle but only manufactor options for that vehicle but you cant just buy them if youv'e not changed log book...

wammers · May 11, 2020

Wheel spacers are for fitting wider wheels with a deeper dish than standard, to return the centre of rotation to it's correct position and retain correct steering geometry. NOT for giving clearance to oversized none standard tyres or widening track. How many times does this need saying before people take it in.

Datatek · May 11, 2020

wammers said:
Wheel spacers are for fitting wider wheels with a deeper dish than standard, to return the centre of rotation to it's correct position and retain correct steering geometry. NOT for giving clearance to oversized none standard tyres or widening track. How many times does this need saying before people take it in.

+1^^^^^^ Your wheels are not homologated for the P38 and would be illegal in France and your insuarance would be invalid.

Dippypud · May 11, 2020

Datatek said:
+1^^^^^^ Your wheels are not homologated for the P38 and would be illegal in France and your insuarance would be invalid.

And now he's mullered the bodywork ...

wammers · May 11, 2020

Datatek said:
+1^^^^^^ Your wheels are not homologated for the P38 and would be illegal in France and your insuarance would be invalid.

He makes no mention of different wheels, just tyres. People do this then fit spacers to help the fouling. This alters the steering geometry and makes the vehicle dangerous to drive because steering component are more prone to catastrophic failure. Remember the little girl killed when a modified Disco lost a wheel.

tomcat59alan · May 11, 2020

And nobody's mentioned the added stress on the wheel bearings.

Datatek · May 11, 2020

wammers said:
He makes no mention of different wheels, just tyres. People do this then fit spacers to help the fouling. This alters the steering geometry and makes the vehicle dangerous to drive because steering component are more prone to catastrophic failure. Remember the little girl killed when a modified Disco lost a wheel.

More positive offset to the steering geometry can make the car hard to control in some circumstances.

wammers · May 11, 2020

Datatek said:
More positive offset to the steering geometry can make the car hard to control in some circumstances.

Correct and components more likely to fail. Including hub bearings. (That bit for Alan)

Datatek · May 11, 2020

wammers said:
Correct and components more likely to fail. Including hub bearings. (That bit for Alan)

Swivels too.

wammers · May 11, 2020

Datatek said:
Swivels too.

Thought i covered everything when i mentioned steering components in post #11. A comprehensive list can be found in RAVE.

Datatek · May 11, 2020

wammers said:
Thought i covered everything when i mentioned steering components in post #11. A comprehensive list can be found in RAVE.

You did

tomcat59alan · May 11, 2020

This post takes me bavk to the old days when we had Mini's, wheel spacers and failed wheel bearings, flared wheel arches to match the trousers. Some idiots even thought it would be a good idea to put the wheels on "inside out" if that makes sence.

RangeRoller dt · May 11, 2020

He had a wheel fall oft not long ago would be my worry
Be careful take your time Mike

wammers · May 11, 2020

tomcat59alan said:
This post takes me bavk to the old days when we had Mini's, wheel spacers and failed wheel bearings, flared wheel arches to match the trousers. Some idiots even thought it would be a goog idea to put the wheels on "inside out" if that makes sence.

Those were the days. Grandma bought me a Mini for my 21st four years later it looked nothing like a Mini. Flattened seams, British racing green with a white roof, wide wheels with spacers to correct steering, lowered. Bored out and skimmed 1100 block and crank fitted with Hillman Imp HC pistons. Went a bit that did.

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