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Howdy
Having scared the bejesus out of a few people now cutting them up as I
change lanes in my Landy TD5 on the motorway to work, I've concluded that I
really MUST do something about that god awfull blind spot in my rear view
mirror. My Landies the van type so no side windows, just the rear door and
two rear windows each side of it to look through. My mirror doesn't even
cover the two side windows -just the door. Wing mirrors are man enough but
what the hell is it with these crappy little RVM! Anybody found a decent
size replacement that will fit on the same mounting without having to resort
to those dubious clip on jobbies?

Suggestions gratefully received before I trash my nearside.

Dennis

 
DB4 wrote:
> Howdy
> Having scared the bejesus out of a few people now cutting them up as I
> change lanes in my Landy TD5 on the motorway to work, I've concluded
> that I really MUST do something about that god awfull blind spot in
> my rear view mirror. My Landies the van type so no side windows,
> just the rear door and two rear windows each side of it to look
> through. My mirror doesn't even cover the two side windows -just the
> door. Wing mirrors are man enough but what the hell is it with these
> crappy little RVM! Anybody found a decent size replacement that will
> fit on the same mounting without having to resort to those dubious
> clip on jobbies?
>
> Suggestions gratefully received before I trash my nearside.
>
> Dennis

Take the RVM off! You'll then learn amazingly quickly to use the wing mirrors.
That's what they're for!

--
"He who says it cannot be done would be well advised not to interrupt
her doing it."

The fiend of my fiend is my enema!


 
On Thu, 22 Jun 2006 21:22:17 +0100, DB4 <[email protected]> wrote:

> Howdy

How do you do?

> Having scared the bejesus out of a few people now cutting them up as I
> change lanes in my Landy TD5 on the motorway to work, I've concluded
> that I
> really MUST do something about that god awfull blind spot in my rear view
> mirror. My Landies the van type so no side windows, just the rear door
> and
> two rear windows each side of it to look through. My mirror doesn't even
> cover the two side windows -just the door. Wing mirrors are man enough
> but
> what the hell is it with these crappy little RVM! Anybody found a decent
> size replacement that will fit on the same mounting without having to
> resort
> to those dubious clip on jobbies?
>
> Suggestions gratefully received before I trash my nearside.

I've had a lump of ply in the hole where the door usually has glass for
about two years now - in any case the 110 is usually full to the gunn'ls -
no chance of seeing much through the rear. Position your n/s door mirror
properly and use that - it's what its for

Having said all that, anyone undertaking a Land Rover deserves a swift
side-swipe. The lesson may save their life (assuming it doesn't kill
them).

--
William Tasso

110 V8
 
What are you whining about, I blocked off the two windows either side of the
door on my series. What do you think the average artic driver has for a rear
view, doesn't bear thinking about does it?


--
Larry
Series 3 rust and holes




"DB4" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:C0C0BA89.3038%[email protected]...
> Howdy
> Having scared the bejesus out of a few people now cutting them up as I
> change lanes in my Landy TD5 on the motorway to work, I've concluded that
I
> really MUST do something about that god awfull blind spot in my rear view
> mirror. My Landies the van type so no side windows, just the rear door
and
> two rear windows each side of it to look through. My mirror doesn't even
> cover the two side windows -just the door. Wing mirrors are man enough
but
> what the hell is it with these crappy little RVM! Anybody found a decent
> size replacement that will fit on the same mounting without having to
resort
> to those dubious clip on jobbies?
>
> Suggestions gratefully received before I trash my nearside.
>
> Dennis
>


 
Larry wrote:
> What are you whining about, I blocked off the two windows either side of the
> door on my series. What do you think the average artic driver has for a rear
> view, doesn't bear thinking about does it?
>
>
Best piece of advice I ever had about driving behind a lorry was "if you
can't see their wing mirrors, they can't see you". I apply this to all
vehicles (on the basis that most car drivers are bloody blind anyway*)
and thus far have avoided any collisions.

Stuart

* Almost literally true in the case of one bloke I work with, who is a
definite menace on the road - he reads by holding a piece of paper about
two inches from his face, and drives with the windscreen in about the
same position.
 
On 2006-06-22, DB4 <[email protected]> wrote:

> Having scared the bejesus out of a few people now cutting them up as
> I change lanes in my Landy TD5 on the motorway to work, I've
> concluded that I really MUST do something about that god awfull
> blind spot in my rear view mirror.

With a canvas top on my 110, the rear transparent panel is no longer
transparent other than during the night when I can see headlights.
It's not unknown for me to just remove the rear view mirror, the wing
mirrors are easily good enough to spot what's going on. Even when I
have the canvas off and the rear view mirror functions properly, it's
not much use for spotting vehicles coming up in lanes to either side,
the wing mirrors are just the job.

Some people have them adjusted so that they can see the sides of the
truck, not sure why as they're not going anywhere. Mine are adjusted
specifically so I can see traffic in the lanes next to me. To see
behind me I move my head.

Best thing to do is just to get used to checking your mirrors
regularly so you have a good idea what's behind you. If you can't see
if someone's overtaking you then you are doing something wrong, that's
specifically what wing mirrors are for. It can be hard to see what's
directly behind you sometimes, but not being able to see traffic in
the lanes surrounding you is just very bad mirror technique.

--
Blast off and strike the evil Bydo empire!
 
On or around Thu, 22 Jun 2006 21:22:17 +0100, DB4 <[email protected]>
enlightened us thusly:

>Howdy
>Having scared the bejesus out of a few people now cutting them up as I
>change lanes in my Landy TD5 on the motorway to work, I've concluded that I
>really MUST do something about that god awfull blind spot in my rear view
>mirror. My Landies the van type so no side windows, just the rear door and
>two rear windows each side of it to look through. My mirror doesn't even
>cover the two side windows -just the door. Wing mirrors are man enough but
>what the hell is it with these crappy little RVM! Anybody found a decent
>size replacement that will fit on the same mounting without having to resort
>to those dubious clip on jobbies?
>
>Suggestions gratefully received before I trash my nearside.
>
>Dennis

are we talking about a defender, here?

If so you can get the larger size mirror on a longer arm, as fitted to LDV
400 series vans.
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
"Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose"
Alphonse Karr (1808 - 1890) Les Guêpes, Jan 1849
 
On Fri, 23 Jun 2006 09:43:02 +0100, Austin Shackles
<[email protected]> wrote:

> ...
> are we talking about a defender, here?
>
> If so you can get the larger size mirror on a longer arm, as fitted to
> LDV
> 400 series vans.

and that doesn't foul the visors?

--
William Tasso

110 V8
 
On 2006-06-23, William Tasso <[email protected]> wrote:

> and that doesn't foul the visors?

I suspect he's talking about the wing mirrors..

--
Blast off and strike the evil Bydo empire!
 

DB4 wrote:
> Howdy
> Having scared the bejesus out of a few people now cutting them up as I
> change lanes in my Landy TD5 on the motorway to work, I've concluded that I
> really MUST do something about that god awfull blind spot in my rear view
> mirror. My Landies the van type so no side windows, just the rear door and
> two rear windows each side of it to look through. My mirror doesn't even
> cover the two side windows -just the door. Wing mirrors are man enough but
> what the hell is it with these crappy little RVM! Anybody found a decent
> size replacement that will fit on the same mounting without having to resort
> to those dubious clip on jobbies?
>
> Suggestions gratefully received before I trash my nearside.
>
> Dennis

What about the big mirrors on the military landrover so that you can
see round the exterior spare tyre. At least it would give you a hand on
the one side!

I know what you mean though, I towed an 8'6" wide boat from Pembs to
Birmingham yesterday and they are crap to look out of. We do a lot of
towing, in the end i've devised a technique of swinging to the left
then right so you can see what's going on behind you.

You shouldn't need to do that without a trailer tho!

Dave

 
On or around Fri, 23 Jun 2006 11:52:06 +0100, "William Tasso"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>On Fri, 23 Jun 2006 09:43:02 +0100, Austin Shackles
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> ...
>> are we talking about a defender, here?
>>
>> If so you can get the larger size mirror on a longer arm, as fitted to
>> LDV
>> 400 series vans.
>
>and that doesn't foul the visors?

have to admit, I was talking about the door mirrors, having not read the OP
properly. still valid info though.

I daresay there are bigger/better interior mirrors to be had for the
interior one as well though.
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
"There is plenty of time to win this game, and to thrash the Spaniards
too" Sir Francis Drake (1540? - 1596) Attr. saying when the Armarda was
sighted, 20th July 1588
 
My problem is compounded by something I neglected to mention - I'm a short
arse (have to move about further to see) and I've got restricted peripheral
vision in my left eye following a corneral graft. I've got my nearside wing
mirror set so I can get some nearside coverage when reversing into parking
spaces so I don't hit anything (I cannot turn far enough to the left to
cover the limits of my peripheral vision and still manage the clutch/brake)
but this setup is leaving some area to my nearside uncovered.

Maybe I should ask around the dealerships and see if they can come up with
anything?


On 23/6/06 14:01, in article [email protected],
"Austin Shackles" <[email protected]> wrote:

> On or around Fri, 23 Jun 2006 11:52:06 +0100, "William Tasso"
> <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>
>> On Fri, 23 Jun 2006 09:43:02 +0100, Austin Shackles
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> ...
>>> are we talking about a defender, here?
>>>
>>> If so you can get the larger size mirror on a longer arm, as fitted to
>>> LDV
>>> 400 series vans.
>>
>> and that doesn't foul the visors?
>
> have to admit, I was talking about the door mirrors, having not read the OP
> properly. still valid info though.
>
> I daresay there are bigger/better interior mirrors to be had for the
> interior one as well though.

 
DB4 <[email protected]> uttered summat worrerz funny about:
> My problem is compounded by something I neglected to mention - I'm a
> short arse (have to move about further to see) and I've got
> restricted peripheral vision in my left eye following a corneral
> graft. I've got my nearside wing mirror set so I can get some
> nearside coverage when reversing into parking spaces so I don't hit
> anything (I cannot turn far enough to the left to cover the limits of
> my peripheral vision and still manage the clutch/brake) but this
> setup is leaving some area to my nearside uncovered.
>
> Maybe I should ask around the dealerships and see if they can come up
> with anything?

Fit an extra mirror. Revering camera... side window in the hard top.

Lee


 
DB4 wrote:
> My problem is compounded by something I neglected to mention - I'm a
> short arse (have to move about further to see) and I've got
> restricted peripheral vision in my left eye following a corneral
> graft. I've got my nearside wing mirror set so I can get some
> nearside coverage when reversing into parking spaces so I don't hit
> anything (I cannot turn far enough to the left to cover the limits of
> my peripheral vision and still manage the clutch/brake) but this
> setup is leaving some area to my nearside uncovered.
>
> Maybe I should ask around the dealerships and see if they can come up
> with anything?
>
>
> On 23/6/06 14:01, in article
> [email protected], "Austin Shackles"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On or around Fri, 23 Jun 2006 11:52:06 +0100, "William Tasso"
>> <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>>
>>> On Fri, 23 Jun 2006 09:43:02 +0100, Austin Shackles
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> ...
>>>> are we talking about a defender, here?
>>>>
>>>> If so you can get the larger size mirror on a longer arm, as
>>>> fitted to LDV
>>>> 400 series vans.
>>>
>>> and that doesn't foul the visors?
>>
>> have to admit, I was talking about the door mirrors, having not read
>> the OP properly. still valid info though.
>>
>> I daresay there are bigger/better interior mirrors to be had for the
>> interior one as well though.

Ah, feeling a little more sympathetic now. Still think you should dispense with
the interier mirror but mabe fit some double wing mirrors so you can set one as
you have now for parking and the other to cover your blind spot. See them quite
frequently on small lorries, sure they must be available for vans and the like, eh
Austin?

--
"He who says it cannot be done would be well advised not to interrupt
her doing it."

The fiend of my fiend is my enema!


 
Double wing mirrors is an option I hadn't thought of! I was coming down to
the same conclusion as Lee with the side window conversion in the hard top
(aka county style) but this sounds a cheaper easier fix. Better start
googling.....


On 23/6/06 20:36, in article [email protected], "GbH"
<[email protected]> wrote:

> DB4 wrote:
>> My problem is compounded by something I neglected to mention - I'm a
>> short arse (have to move about further to see) and I've got
>> restricted peripheral vision in my left eye following a corneral
>> graft. I've got my nearside wing mirror set so I can get some
>> nearside coverage when reversing into parking spaces so I don't hit
>> anything (I cannot turn far enough to the left to cover the limits of
>> my peripheral vision and still manage the clutch/brake) but this
>> setup is leaving some area to my nearside uncovered.
>>
>> Maybe I should ask around the dealerships and see if they can come up
>> with anything?
>>
>>
>> On 23/6/06 14:01, in article
>> [email protected], "Austin Shackles"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> On or around Fri, 23 Jun 2006 11:52:06 +0100, "William Tasso"
>>> <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 23 Jun 2006 09:43:02 +0100, Austin Shackles
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> ...
>>>>> are we talking about a defender, here?
>>>>>
>>>>> If so you can get the larger size mirror on a longer arm, as
>>>>> fitted to LDV
>>>>> 400 series vans.
>>>>
>>>> and that doesn't foul the visors?
>>>
>>> have to admit, I was talking about the door mirrors, having not read
>>> the OP properly. still valid info though.
>>>
>>> I daresay there are bigger/better interior mirrors to be had for the
>>> interior one as well though.
>
> Ah, feeling a little more sympathetic now. Still think you should dispense
> with
> the interier mirror but mabe fit some double wing mirrors so you can set one
> as
> you have now for parking and the other to cover your blind spot. See them
> quite
> frequently on small lorries, sure they must be available for vans and the
> like, eh
> Austin?

 

"Austin Shackles" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On or around Thu, 22 Jun 2006 21:22:17 +0100, DB4 <[email protected]>
> enlightened us thusly:
>
>>Howdy
>>Having scared the bejesus out of a few people now cutting them up as I
>>change lanes in my Landy TD5 on the motorway to work, I've concluded that
>>I
>>really MUST do something about that god awfull blind spot in my rear view
>>mirror. My Landies the van type so no side windows, just the rear door
>>and
>>two rear windows each side of it to look through. My mirror doesn't even
>>cover the two side windows -just the door. Wing mirrors are man enough
>>but
>>what the hell is it with these crappy little RVM! Anybody found a decent
>>size replacement that will fit on the same mounting without having to
>>resort
>>to those dubious clip on jobbies?
>>
>>Suggestions gratefully received before I trash my nearside.
>>
>>Dennis
>
> are we talking about a defender, here?
>
> If so you can get the larger size mirror on a longer arm, as fitted to LDV
> 400 series vans.
> --
> Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
> "Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose"
> Alphonse Karr (1808 - 1890) Les Guêpes, Jan 1849

I bought a bucket load off one of our export customers
http://www.unitruck.co.uk/partlist.asp?prodid=120#
Derek


 
Derek <[email protected]> uttered summat worrerz funny
about:

> I bought a bucket load off one of our export customers
> http://www.unitruck.co.uk/partlist.asp?prodid=120#
> Derek

I've just put two of those on the 101 off ebay so I won't ask the price....
but showing my arse is the convex the one that give you more view and make
people look like they have big facial feature were they to use the mirror?

I could really do with replacing the glass if so ...not because I have a
small nose but to afford better visibility on the pasenger side of Morph.

Lee D
--
www.lrproject.com

a.f.l. & 101ers Unofficial October 2006
<http://www.lrproject.com/afl__101_owners_unofficial.htm>

"Anti's - Give
them enough rope and they'll be stuck in a ditch with alot of rope ;-) "


 
On Fri, 23 Jun 2006 22:51:33 +0100, DB4 <[email protected]> wrote:

> Double wing mirrors is an option I hadn't thought of! ...

Does sound favourite. If you can't find them just yet then one of those
tiny stick on jobbies will show movement if not detail.

--
William Tasso

110 V8
 
On or around Fri, 23 Jun 2006 20:02:09 +0100, DB4 <[email protected]>
enlightened us thusly:

>My problem is compounded by something I neglected to mention - I'm a short
>arse (have to move about further to see) and I've got restricted peripheral
>vision in my left eye following a corneral graft. I've got my nearside wing
>mirror set so I can get some nearside coverage when reversing into parking
>spaces so I don't hit anything (I cannot turn far enough to the left to
>cover the limits of my peripheral vision and still manage the clutch/brake)
>but this setup is leaving some area to my nearside uncovered.
>
>Maybe I should ask around the dealerships and see if they can come up with
>anything?

Find an LDV 400 (not a convoy) and have a look at the mirrors on the doors.
Bigger glass area and a longer arm, might be of some use.
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
"Brevis esse laboro, Obscurus fio" (it is when I struggle to be
brief that I become obscure) Horace (65 - 8 BC) Ars Poetica, 25
 
On or around Fri, 23 Jun 2006 19:36:30 GMT, "GbH"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>Ah, feeling a little more sympathetic now. Still think you should dispense with
>the interier mirror but mabe fit some double wing mirrors so you can set one as
>you have now for parking and the other to cover your blind spot. See them quite
>frequently on small lorries, sure they must be available for vans and the like, eh
>Austin?

erm..

most of the lorries have a mirror mounting rail which runs up parallel to
the door and is connected at the top. You could doubtless fit such a rail
to a defender, though. I've seen 'em on some of the nipponese 4x4s. This
allows of mounting extra mirrors.
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
"Brevis esse laboro, Obscurus fio" (it is when I struggle to be
brief that I become obscure) Horace (65 - 8 BC) Ars Poetica, 25
 
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