Rear Tub Capping Question

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Been stripping the 90 down today in preporation for replacing the chassis, anyway i know the sides of each rear tub side cappings was rusty under the paint but today when me and son removed the roof inc sides we found they was scrap due to each capping and one of the rear corner cappings was rotten through and need replacing, i have been looking on ebay and spotted these P/N AMN711210 and AMN711200 and just wondered if they will fit mine ( 1988 ) what do you think :)
 
The number beginning P/N I get a Dell circuit board. According to that compatibility checker the tub cappings don't fit a 1988 90, unless I'm using it incorrectly. I would message them or buy from YRM
 
Sorry P/N means part number but i should have put p/n instead :oops:

i had another look this morning before i went to work and its not the side cappings as i thought its the two rear corners and the n/s/f corner although at a push i could get away with that and just replace the two rear corners but i will see :)
 
Sorry P/N means part number but i should have put p/n instead :oops:

i had another look this morning before i went to work and its not the side cappings as i thought its the two rear corners and the n/s/f corner although at a push i could get away with that and just replace the two rear corners but i will see :)

Never thought. Cos you said ebay I thought they were ebay reference numbers.
There are different types of corner cappings.
 
i bought two for mine in 2004 galved oned and painted body colour over them if i remember they were 90 quid each
but it was in 2004
i just read in lr4x4 about yrm ones that do not have the bolt hole you might want to check this before ordering
Replacing capping with galvanized ones, where not to order
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Hi there,

in the proces of replacing a damaged wing and rear panel I also wanted to replace the rear crossmember and the body cappings on my MY2006 TD5 90 CSW XS. As the RH bodycapping was slightly bent due to the inpact that damaged the rear panel I thought it would be wise to buy a new one, and then galvanized. As it started to rust allready. Searching for these Items led me to a company called YRM metal solutions.

I ordered the cappings (being advertized as being cappings for a 90 defender CSW) there. On arrival these turn out to miss the hole in the corner of the cappign where the main bolt to hold the windowframe is located. I wrote a e-mail to this company including the pictures I enclose here, showing the problem and telling them i ordered a galvanized item which you rather not modify because of change of rust. I got this reaction:

Thanks for your email and images.
Yes, these are genuine land rover 90 CSW cappings , as we buy these from land rover.
The images on the website are the same as the ones provided to yourself and the image you have supplied.
All I can think of, is land rover have altered them from 2006 to 2015, to accommodate the forward facing seats, I would match drill your body to suit the capping and bolt in place.

Now for one I wrote I have a MY2006 defender which is a TD5 not a TD4, secondly, I have checked my neighbours car (a 99 defender) which has the same bolt in the same place, so BTW does the TD4.
Clearly the customer is to blame because he ordered on discription, not by picture, and now I have to modify my car. I´m not going to sent them back because i get the (horrific) shippingcost not restituted.
Now as YRM claimes to use original LR cappings where did this go wrong? All the 90 CSW I checked have this bolt. I see lots of Item on the net, including in this forum, that show this bolt in this place. I can even state that I haven´t seen a picture of the rear tub where this bolt is NOT in this place.

Anyway I´m not ordering at YRM anymore, Pity for them because now I know that it takes less then a day´s work to do both sides, I get paid handsomely to do 3 others with rusty cappings!

if the originals cappings are not bend I strongly advise to have them gavanized. If they are bent, you are better of buying originals (for instance at SP for 58 pounds) and have these shotblasted and galvanized. Still saves you money on the YRM deal (199 pounds for 2).

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Posted September 15, 2015
I've got some new genuine YRM ones to fit later on in the build. Mine have the holes if I remember correctly? but not the same as my old ones.


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Posted September 15, 2015
I have some YRM ones stashed ready to fit - they were genuine new Land Rover ones they had galvanised.

They are one piece as opposed to welded, though I haven't checked them against the existing ones.


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Posted September 15, 2015
My guess is that LR have changed their design slightly over the years then.


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Posted September 15, 2015
Is it not as simple as Land Rover supply them with the hole needing to be drilled ? And the solution is as simple as drilling them ?

Am I missing something ?


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Posted September 15, 2015
On 9/15/2015 at 1:19 PM, Anderzander said:
Is it not as simple as Land Rover supply them with the hole needing to be drilled ? And the solution is as simple as drilling them ?

Am I missing something ?

But when you have ordered a galvanised part, the last thing you want to have to do is chop a hole in it, and hence lose the benefit of it being galvanised!!!


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Posted September 15, 2015
LR aren't going to want something to have to be drilled on the production line though I'd have thought?


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Posted September 15, 2015
On 9/15/2015 at 1:55 PM, landroversforever said:
LR aren't going to want something to have to be drilled on the production line though I'd have thought?

Having done the Defender production line tour a couple of weeks ago, we did see certain items having holes created according to build spec.

However this is not just a missing hole, as you need to weld the clamping tube in too. Such a feature would not really fit with any variation in built without there being two separate part numbers. Even on a truck cab model you still get the holes in the capping in case want to add a tilt frame.


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Ah but theres a different part for truck cab/van option C
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That's a good point, and I hadn't thought of, they do do different types for van/pickup and SW. I bought the SW ones so I wouldn't have to chop them for my bulkhead removal bar.


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Posted September 15, 2015
On 9/15/2015 at 3:27 PM, pete3000 said:
Ah but theres a different part for truck cab/van option C
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Could you expand on this Pete? I am aware that there are single piece and two piece rear cappings

Obviously there would be different parts for a 110 SW vs 110 truck cab.

With a 90 there is a difference at the front dependant on whether you have a centre bulkhead fitted, but all variants have the holes at the rear corner to secure the roof.




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Posted September 15, 2015
It would seem not on the latest ones Michael, pictures are on the YRM website
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Posted September 15, 2015
Ok, after a bit of digging...

The ones as shown WITHOUT the hole are listed as AMN710740 and AMN710750. This is from chassis 2A625489 and has no internal bulkhead...and what YRM are selling.

The ones WITH the hole are AMN711200 and AMN711210, these are for vehicles with a bulkhead.

Both listings refer to 90 CSW


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Posted September 16, 2015
I've seen a thread on the same subject before so this is not the first time it's happened.

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If you can find them a pair of series 2/3 corners will fit.I fitted a set of 109 capping's [cut down] to my 90 some years ago. The galv was good back in the day.
88 side capping's do not fit but the corners do.
 
i bought two for mine in 2004 galved oned and painted body colour over them if i remember they were 90 quid each
but it was in 2004
i just read in lr4x4 about yrm ones that do not have the bolt hole you might want to check this before ordering
Replacing capping with galvanized ones, where not to order
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Hi there,

in the proces of replacing a damaged wing and rear panel I also wanted to replace the rear crossmember and the body cappings on my MY2006 TD5 90 CSW XS. As the RH bodycapping was slightly bent due to the inpact that damaged the rear panel I thought it would be wise to buy a new one, and then galvanized. As it started to rust allready. Searching for these Items led me to a company called YRM metal solutions.

I ordered the cappings (being advertized as being cappings for a 90 defender CSW) there. On arrival these turn out to miss the hole in the corner of the cappign where the main bolt to hold the windowframe is located. I wrote a e-mail to this company including the pictures I enclose here, showing the problem and telling them i ordered a galvanized item which you rather not modify because of change of rust. I got this reaction:

Thanks for your email and images.
Yes, these are genuine land rover 90 CSW cappings , as we buy these from land rover.
The images on the website are the same as the ones provided to yourself and the image you have supplied.
All I can think of, is land rover have altered them from 2006 to 2015, to accommodate the forward facing seats, I would match drill your body to suit the capping and bolt in place.

Now for one I wrote I have a MY2006 defender which is a TD5 not a TD4, secondly, I have checked my neighbours car (a 99 defender) which has the same bolt in the same place, so BTW does the TD4.
Clearly the customer is to blame because he ordered on discription, not by picture, and now I have to modify my car. I´m not going to sent them back because i get the (horrific) shippingcost not restituted.
Now as YRM claimes to use original LR cappings where did this go wrong? All the 90 CSW I checked have this bolt. I see lots of Item on the net, including in this forum, that show this bolt in this place. I can even state that I haven´t seen a picture of the rear tub where this bolt is NOT in this place.

Anyway I´m not ordering at YRM anymore, Pity for them because now I know that it takes less then a day´s work to do both sides, I get paid handsomely to do 3 others with rusty cappings!

if the originals cappings are not bend I strongly advise to have them gavanized. If they are bent, you are better of buying originals (for instance at SP for 58 pounds) and have these shotblasted and galvanized. Still saves you money on the YRM deal (199 pounds for 2).

Willem.



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I've got some new genuine YRM ones to fit later on in the build. Mine have the holes if I remember correctly? but not the same as my old ones.


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I have some YRM ones stashed ready to fit - they were genuine new Land Rover ones they had galvanised.

They are one piece as opposed to welded, though I haven't checked them against the existing ones.


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My guess is that LR have changed their design slightly over the years then.


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Is it not as simple as Land Rover supply them with the hole needing to be drilled ? And the solution is as simple as drilling them ?

Am I missing something ?


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Posted September 15, 2015
On 9/15/2015 at 1:19 PM, Anderzander said:
Is it not as simple as Land Rover supply them with the hole needing to be drilled ? And the solution is as simple as drilling them ?

Am I missing something ?

But when you have ordered a galvanised part, the last thing you want to have to do is chop a hole in it, and hence lose the benefit of it being galvanised!!!


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Posted September 15, 2015
LR aren't going to want something to have to be drilled on the production line though I'd have thought?


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Posted September 15, 2015
On 9/15/2015 at 1:55 PM, landroversforever said:
LR aren't going to want something to have to be drilled on the production line though I'd have thought?

Having done the Defender production line tour a couple of weeks ago, we did see certain items having holes created according to build spec.

However this is not just a missing hole, as you need to weld the clamping tube in too. Such a feature would not really fit with any variation in built without there being two separate part numbers. Even on a truck cab model you still get the holes in the capping in case want to add a tilt frame.


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That's a good point, and I hadn't thought of, they do do different types for van/pickup and SW. I bought the SW ones so I wouldn't have to chop them for my bulkhead removal bar.


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Posted September 15, 2015
On 9/15/2015 at 3:27 PM, pete3000 said:
Ah but theres a different part for truck cab/van option C
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Could you expand on this Pete? I am aware that there are single piece and two piece rear cappings

Obviously there would be different parts for a 110 SW vs 110 truck cab.

With a 90 there is a difference at the front dependant on whether you have a centre bulkhead fitted, but all variants have the holes at the rear corner to secure the roof.




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Posted September 15, 2015
It would seem not on the latest ones Michael, pictures are on the YRM website
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Posted September 15, 2015
Ok, after a bit of digging...

The ones as shown WITHOUT the hole are listed as AMN710740 and AMN710750. This is from chassis 2A625489 and has no internal bulkhead...and what YRM are selling.

The ones WITH the hole are AMN711200 and AMN711210, these are for vehicles with a bulkhead.

Both listings refer to 90 CSW


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I've seen a thread on the same subject before so this is not the first time it's happened.

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Have you looked at scrappies etc for the cappings, there must be loads in there all guaranteed to be the right size.
 
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