re-chassising a defender

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dave-h2610

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I have a land rover 90 which failed the mot with a rotten chassis, and was wondering if any one noes away of re-chassising it with a second-hand one with no documents as i will require using it on the road?
thanks Dave.
 
Sean said:
grind the old number off and stamp your current chassis number back onto the new chassis

simple
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Just like the pikeys or the professional ringers do?

What do you think the old bill will do if they see the self stamped chassis? Which they will do if you have an accident that they need to investigate. Even if both chassis' are yours you'll have some awkward questions to answer.

Leave the original numbers alone and keep a note of when you do the swap. Inform you r insurance company of the change. That way you can at least argue that you have not deliberately tried to conceal any identities if needs be and your insurance company wont run for cover if you need to claim and their assessor looks for the numbers.
 
you might want to find out where the original documents went, a second hand chassis sold without documents could very easily be from a stolen landy.
 
Sean said:
clearly a glass half empty day today ?

how many series vehicle are there running around that have had the dumb irons changed
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A dumb iron is not a chassis swap - its a recognised repair. As far as I know dumb irons dont come with chassis numbers stamped on them? There is nothing to stop you cutting off the relevant part of a stolen chassis and welding a repair patch back but its not something I'd do lightly.

Deliberately grinding out existing chassis numbers and/or stamping new ones suggests an ulterior motive and I'd look elsewhere if there was evidence of this. No paperwork is a classic example. If you had genuinely bought and broken or scrapped a vehicle you would have documentation to prove it. It could be your stolen motor that was being sold off as spare parts.

Just my humble opinion as an ex traffic cop.
 
Worms, can, opening, a. (Rearrange to make the appropriate sentance.)

Theres lots of confusion over whether an old chassis can be reused on a different vehicle, without the vehicle requireing a Q-plate.

And nobody seems to know the correct answer (including me).
 
can you check the identity of the chassis with the dvla. i think your vehicle takes on the identity of the chassis.better checking now than getting stopped by plod and having it siezed.as more are being stolen more are stopped for spot checks
 
Ooooh you have put yourself in a position.

With respect to all !! if you have a chassis even 2nd hand best not say it on a blog.

It may be innocent but are you sure!!!!!! if its second hand it needs to be registered as a Q plate !!

Or pop down your local Police station & confess !! let them take it away & buy a new one.

Or tell everyone what a great job you did restoring the old one !!!!
 
Shifty1962 said:
A dumb iron is not a chassis swap - its a recognised repair. As far as I know dumb irons dont come with chassis numbers stamped on them? There is nothing to stop you cutting off the relevant part of a stolen chassis and welding a repair patch back but its not something I'd do lightly.
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my point being is that it's standard practice to re-stamp irons - so what's the big deal with re stamping a chassis to reflect

but hey as an ex traffic cop you clearly have the trump card of all knowledge and righteousnesses
 
what sean means is the chassis number on a series is stamped on the dumb iron. replace a rotten one you need to restamp
 
Sean said:
my point being is that it's standard practice to re-stamp irons - so what's the big deal with re stamping a chassis to reflect

but hey as an ex traffic cop you clearly have the trump card of all knowledge and righteousnesses
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Far from it. I dont see what my job used to be has to do with common sense. I mention it as I seized more than a few vehicles with altered, obscured, or missing, chassis numbers. Some were genuine repairs but many were not. I'm an ex cop by more than 15 years and the laws have changed from my day. So has the technology to uncover such shaningans.

Anyone is free to go ahead and do what they want. Dont start crying though when your vehicle is seized and you're stood in the dock with no motor, a criminal record, an empty wallet, and possibly an enforced holliday at a government hotel.

You have to ask why somebody would be selling a chassis with no documentation though - or dont you care where your spare parts come from? Maybe next time it will be your pride and joy that appears in bits on eBay and at auto jumbles and I'd be interested in your take on things then.
 
Shifty1962 said:
Anyone is free to go ahead and do what they want. Dont start crying though when your vehicle is seized and you're stood in the dock with no motor, a criminal record, an empty wallet, and possibly an enforced holliday at a government hotel.
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guilty till proven innocent, typical plod mentality still
 
Sean said:
guilty till proven innocent, typical plod mentality still
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You obviously live in some sort of secluded utopia where there is no crime and everyone is purer than the driven snow. Where nobody would ever think of stealing your motor, changing its identity, then trying to sell it on either complete or in bits with no paper work. Where people believe everything they are told without question. As long as the market for stolen goods exists so will the stealers.

Of course most people live in the real world where theiving, drug addicted, workshy, uneducated, waste of space scumbags exist who wake up every day with the sole intention to deprive honest hard working people of their hard earned belongings rather than get a proper job.

From your apparent hostile attitude towards the police I can only assume that you have been collared doing something you should not have been or you don't see a problem with others doing so.

Good luck fella because one day in all probability it will all come crashing down around you like a ton of bricks and I guarantee the first thing you will do is call for the assistance of the Police.
 
Shifty1962 said:
You obviously live in some sort of secluded utopia where there is no crime and everyone is purer than the driven snow. Where nobody would ever think of stealing your motor, changing its identity, then trying to sell it on either complete or in bits with no paper work. Where people believe everything they are told without question.
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yes
 
Shifty has got the edge in the debate, and the morale highground. If its all cosha why not ask the DVLA?

I accept the argument about stamping the chassis if parts have been replaced but not grinding the old number off; seems a bit dodgy and needs further investigation.
 
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