Re: brakes update

Mr.Nice. wrote:

>An update on tracing the cause of the brakes problem, if you remember,
>1984 110, takes a couple of pumps of the pedal to get the back brakes
>working.
>Had the wife in the drivers seat stepping on the brakes while I
>checked the rubber hoses from the axle to the chassis, the hose showed
>no sign of ballooning so I now suspect air in the system, and it'll do
>no harm to bleed it through anyway.
>If I get one of those ezibleed things am I right in thinking that I
>can just connecxt it to one wheel cylinder, open the bleed nipple,
>pump the brakes a few times, top-up the brake fluid, pump a couple
>more times, top-up, close the bleed nipple and repeat on the other
>three?
>
>
>Regards.
>Mark.(AKA, Mr.Nice.)
>
>
Hi Mark,

Exercise caution with your Eezebleed. Don't run it from a fully
inflated tyre because the fluid reservior will leak and massively aerate
the fluid (in my experience). You can't top the Eezebleed reservoir up
when it still contains fluid as the release of air presure will create
bubbles in the fluid, just continue to bleed a caliper until the fluid
level starts to drop in the reservoir on the master cylinder, i.e. the
Eezebleed contains only air.

Having written all the above I'm wondering if I thinking of the same
gadget as you! Are you talking about Gunsons Eezebleed or one of those
rubber pipes with a slit in it?

I've got an Eezibleed and it is brilliant.

On another tack IIRC the inner hose on rubber brake lines can break down
allowing fluid in between the inner hose an outer sheath. I replaced
the OE rubber hoses on my first RRC with a Goodrich kit for around £50
(half the cost of new genuine rubber hoses) and the brakes were much
better. At least until an earth fault treated the SS braiding as a good
return path for a dead short on the batteries!

On yet another tack I had a brand new Vauxhall Astra once were the brake
pedal would sink to the floor as soon as the engine was turned on. No
amount of pedal pumping made any difference and Vauxhall changed every
part of the braking system except the solid lines. Needless to say my
employers handed the car back.

HTH Richard

Hi Mark,

Mr.Nice. wrote:

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>I was referring to the kit with the one-way valve but if there is an
>even easier way then count me in.
>
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Buy an Eezibleed from Halfords. It makes life soooo much easier. It's
so good that I have seriously thought about buying new covers for the
clutch and brake master cylinders on my bike and fitting adaptors to
them so that I can use the Eezibleed on it (They're square - the EB only
works on fluid reservoirs with screw caps.)

Just remember what I said about not connecting it to a fully inflated
tyre - IIRC 20psi is about tops. If I can find the instructions, do you
want me to scan them and mail them to you before you splash out any cash?

This is a web page lucked at random from Google (Gunson's don't seem to
have a page of their own despite being found by Google ??).

http://www.motormania.co.uk/product_details.asp?intDescID=185

You might like to look at this page about brake bleeding and the EB,
especially the bit about shuttle valves. I don't know about the 110 but
the RRC has a valve in the rear circuit that IIRC acts to reduce the
pressure to the rear brakes - please someone more expert correct me on
this - Also see what they have to say about hoses collapsing
internally. £50 for peace of mind is not too great. I did have a hose
burst on a very old FIAT, fortunately just as I stopped on my driveway,
but . . .

http://www.mgb-stuff.org.uk/braketext.htm

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>Regards.
>Mark.(AKA, Mr.Nice.)
>
>

Regards Richard

"Richard Savage" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> On yet another tack I had a brand new Vauxhall Astra once were the brake
> pedal would sink to the floor as soon as the engine was turned on. No
> amount of pedal pumping made any difference and Vauxhall changed every
> part of the braking system except the solid lines. Needless to say my
> employers handed the car back.
>

that is normally indicative of a servo fault, especially if the pedal is
solid when the engine is off.

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Simon Isaacs wrote:

>that is normally indicative of a servo fault, especially if the pedal is
>solid when the engine is off.
>
>--
>Simon Isaacs
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That is what I thought. But as it persisted after the servo had been
replaced . . . . .

Richard

On or around Fri, 24 Sep 2004 18:58:14 +0100, Richard Savage
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>Just remember what I said about not connecting it to a fully inflated
>tyre - IIRC 20psi is about tops. If I can find the instructions, do you
>want me to scan them and mail them to you before you splash out any cash?

the instructions IIRC tell you to use a partially inflated tyre, not a
fully-inflated one.

Austin Shackles wrote:

>the instructions IIRC tell you to use a partially inflated tyre, not a
>fully-inflated one.
>

Quite right, but you only have to forget once (as I did) to partially
deflate the tyre to understand why the instructions say to use no more
than 20 psi!

Cheers Richard