rattling v8 - camshaft? advise pls

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dankvz

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Hi all,

I need advise, please! I'll try to describe the symptoms... Sorry if this topic has been up before, I didn't find any..

The noise has been progressing since we got the car about 3 month ago. I studied the manual, got a PRO friend standing by messing with his own car, and replaced the tappets and a broken rocker. Flushed and changed oil.

Put everything back together. the noises didn't go. Got down to rockers again, checked everything, put back together. same result. Well, new tappets sound much better.

The noise starts quietly just as the engine warms up to working temperature and grows louder. It's definitely not pistons or something, by the timing it's valve or camshaft related. it sounds like diesel from beneath the block heads, seems right-sided a bit. Then after a few seconds comes loud metallic clack-clack-clack noise from right side rockers/rods. The noise disappear when I rev up, but comes in at faster pace when the revs are at 1500 and slows down to idle. Metal clinging would come again only after few seconds.

a friend of my who's kindly lending me a spot by a garage with the tools, he's a good engine mechanic, works at official toyota. little experience with LR. He thinks the camshaft float-end is worn or the fixture inside the engine block is worn, therefore camshaft oscillation - and the noise, oil channel is misaligned and the oil pressure drops, and the tappets run in insufficient oil supply, hence the metallic noise later.

i'm all eager to work on the car but do I need to pull out the engine to get to camshaft oil bed? Is there anything inside the block camshaft related that could be worn, or do I just need a new camshaft? If you know any links to HOWTOs on this, please share. I would greatly appreciate some advise
 
Hi all,

I need advise, please! I'll try to describe the symptoms... Sorry if this topic has been up before, I didn't find any..

The noise has been progressing since we got the car about 3 month ago. I studied the manual, got a PRO friend standing by messing with his own car, and replaced the tappets and a broken rocker. Flushed and changed oil.

Put everything back together. the noises didn't go. Got down to rockers again, checked everything, put back together. same result. Well, new tappets sound much better.

The noise starts quietly just as the engine warms up to working temperature and grows louder. It's definitely not pistons or something, by the timing it's valve or camshaft related. it sounds like diesel from beneath the block heads, seems right-sided a bit. Then after a few seconds comes loud metallic clack-clack-clack noise from right side rockers/rods. The noise disappear when I rev up, but comes in at faster pace when the revs are at 1500 and slows down to idle. Metal clinging would come again only after few seconds.

a friend of my who's kindly lending me a spot by a garage with the tools, he's a good engine mechanic, works at official toyota. little experience with LR. He thinks the camshaft float-end is worn or the fixture inside the engine block is worn, therefore camshaft oscillation - and the noise, oil channel is misaligned and the oil pressure drops, and the tappets run in insufficient oil supply, hence the metallic noise later.

i'm all eager to work on the car but do I need to pull out the engine to get to camshaft oil bed? Is there anything inside the block camshaft related that could be worn, or do I just need a new camshaft? If you know any links to HOWTOs on this, please share. I would greatly appreciate some advise


Take the centre galley off and pull the followers out, you will get good access to the camshaft to lever and inspect it.

Sometimes if you stick a feeler guage in each of the tappets when it's running you can tie it down to a particular lobe.

Anyway if the cam followers are dished or pitted then the cam is also probably fooked, but either way you always fit both, also good idea to get some cam lub for the build.
 
Thanks for advise

I'm a bit lost here... I understand from reading everything related that camshaft needs to be replaced. My mechanic, though, says that whatever supports the camshaft inside the engine block is worn, and that means taking the engine out, taking those supports out, putting new ones in, honing the camshaft and honing the supports.........

Does anyone have a picture or can maybe explain to me how the camshaft is fixed inside the engine? Where does it sits, what are the friction counterparts? Pardon my technical English, please, i don't know what some parts are called...
 
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