Range Rover Sport revurberations!

Hi everyone!

I have a new TDV6, which is a massive improvement on my Freelander. There is a "BUT" though, because neither Land Rover nor the dealer seem able to cure the revurberations which manifest themselves through the steering wheel and pedals for much of the time when it is in motion. Their explanation is that the natural frequency of the engine happens to be the same as that of the body, and that the resultant resonance is the cause of the reverburations. Apparently it is also a characteristic across the model range, although I did not experience it in two other identical diesel models which I have driven, neither have I read about it in any press or test reports.

Has anyone else experienced this phenomenon? Incidentally, I have just discovered that the problem is virtually eliminated whenever the terrain response system is set in anything other than General (i.e normal road use)

Mylo,

I'm relatively new to the range rover scene but have owned enough cars fram various dealers to develop a good nose for sniffing out bullSh1t. If you have driven 2 other identical models with no such fault then i think you can safely assume that it is not a common fault, and if it was a common fault I'm sure a recall would of been initiated by now. I once owned a Vauxhall (shame I know) VX220 and I was fobbed off with endless lies and tall tails until the dealer gave me a full refund some 4 months and 6000miles later, if your not happy then keep being persistant with them, while you've got a warranty you need to make the most of it, the dealer will eventually become tired of seeing the same reg plate in the garage and hopefully come to some sort of arrangement. I think some dealers operate on the well known phrase of the 3 B's, bullsh1t baffles brains, not knowing that some Landy owners are part of forums and can redilly compare and exchange information.

Hope this helps

Matt

Matt,

Thanks for the moral support!

The brick wall which I have encountered with Land Rover and the dealer makes me think they have something to hide. So details of any similar experiences involving this model, or perhaps the Discovery III, would be greatly appreciated.

Alternatively, does anyone know a good independent consultant who may be suitably qualified to advise?

Regards,

Mylo.

Mylo

Your experience of LR main dealers is very common. It is not that they have anything to hide, just that the vast majority of them are outright incompetent.

As the previous Matt suggested - keep persisting with them, speak to the manager / owner of the garage if you can. If you don't get anywhere, you can always do what my father did when he had a problem with a new car, which was to sit in the doorway and refuse to move until they did something positive! It worked too!

Matt

welll seems like you have a positive fault, i cant think of any thing off the top of my head, think because they cant find anything there just starting to blag you, these things run as smooth as you like.
are there any other dealers near that you can try?

I have driven the RR Sport HSE TDV6 a few times and never found any isues with vibrations at all. The one I was driving has however had many problems with the managment side of things to do with the ABS sensor on the front offside wheel, They finaly sorted it. Then about 3weeks ago the pads had warn down to the disc on that side and scored the disc. Aparently there is only a break sensor on the near side! So there is very uneven break ware, all the dealer says that it is just normal. But the car has only done 16,000 miles!!

Good luck, I sugest that you persist and say that you want you money back.

seen this problem a few times, wheel ballancing normally sorts it and i have swapped wheels from another vehicle before to try and elliminate it, have had one or two which have been a pain though. some seem to be worse if they have bigger wheels than standard fitted, uneven tyre wear is also an issue with the rr sport

we're not incompitent as mmaddock said and we do try to get stuff sorted but its not always as straight forward as some people think, especially when people bring their vehicle in at 10 o'clock and want it back for 12 expecting everything to be right, we're not miricle workers. If only you lot knew what went on in a LR workshop and the problems we have to contend with.

Far from easy i can tell you

clutchdust said:

we're not incompitent as mmaddock said and we do try to get stuff sorted but its not always as straight forward as some people think, especially when people bring their vehicle in at 10 o'clock and want it back for 12 expecting everything to be right, we're not miricle workers. If only you lot knew what went on in a LR workshop and the problems we have to contend with.

Far from easy i can tell you

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WELL SAID

cheers, glad someone knows where i'm coming from!

I've never worked in a more hectic garage than a landrover one!

I'm not saying that the mechanics are incompetent, I am saying that the dealers are incompetent.

They don't have a clue how to treat customers. I have bought cars from many 'high end' manufacturers and used main dealers a lot, but never have I come across a dealer that is as uninsterested in its customers as LR ones are. Main dealers from other manufacturers seem to cope ok - (although they are not all perfect I admit!) so it can be done!

Matt

Their explanation is that the natural frequency of the engine happens to be the same as that of the body, and that the resultant resonance is the cause of the reverburations.

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Oh, by the way - that is bollocks! Land Rover spend a lot of time with highly sophisitcated computer analysis before the car is even built making sure exactly that situation does not occur!

Matt

clutchdust said:

seen this problem a few times, wheel ballancing normally sorts it and i have swapped wheels from another vehicle before to try and elliminate it, have had one or two which have been a pain though. some seem to be worse if they have bigger wheels than standard fitted, uneven tyre wear is also an issue with the rr sport

we're not incompitent as mmaddock said and we do try to get stuff sorted but its not always as straight forward as some people think, especially when people bring their vehicle in at 10 o'clock and want it back for 12 expecting everything to be right, we're not miricle workers. If only you lot knew what went on in a LR workshop and the problems we have to contend with.

Far from easy i can tell you

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Definitely not a wheel balancing, or warped disc problem.

The dealer has had the vehicle on three separate occasions, first for a day, then a week, and finally for three weeks! Apart from looking for something to tighten up, the only thing they / LR seem to have done throughout that time is to attempt a new software download.

My impression has been that the mechanics are fine, but frustrated and constrained by what LR will allow them to do