Range Rover...in the right place now:)

Ive been window shopping today, seen 2 Rangies. A 4.0 & a 2.5.
the bloke in the garage said to stay away from the petrols...in his opinion.
BUT ive also been told the 2.5 diesel in a gutless slug with the bmw engine init.
I'm running a 200Tdi discovery at the mo and have been for a few years and i dont wanna upgrade to downgrade if ya know wot i mean. My disco is really quick (for wot it is).
So in short, is there a range rover diesel that wont wind me up after a week. Ill be really gutted if i get rid of me lovely landy for a lovely gutless rangie.
Any ideas?
Jay

hi about the 2.5 bmw engine it is abit underit powered on acceleration tunless you fit a chip to if you want a range rover for power yuo want the td6 v6 diesel regards jamie 1966

As Jamie says, but why didn't you take them for a test drive?? the thing about power it always = MPG and your looking at 21 MPG in a V if your lucky, some will do less and some a little more, but im happy with a chiped 2.5 BMW, if i wanted a fast cat i woudnt have got a Range Rover with the aerodynamics of a brick

Hi guys
I didnt take either of them for a test coz the 1st 1 I saw was soo penned in it would of taken a week to get it out...the second, well by then my ikkle lad was fast off in the landy...
The bloke I talked to did say summut bout chipping and putting a larger intercooler on..but had no idea about price.
I dont want a super fast thing, thats not my point.I already have a fast can and bike for that. I was jus worried that it wud be very sluggish.
I read a review on here sumwhere saying standard they are 130 horses ish...chipped and bigger intercoolered more like 200...like I sed before its not about performance....my bro has a pajero (****er in mexican) 2.8 looks ok to me till i drove it..it was like driving a 20 tonne tank on a metro engine..my disco leaves him for dust...but hey thats not wot its all about to me
Ive had many good years in my disco & im still not bored of it..if i can make a 2.5 RR bout the same for not too much expence, then thats my weopon of choice.
Jay

chipped and bigger intercooler (i had mine done) you can get it done pretty cheap for cash, and the same for the intercooler too you can save lots of ££ with paying cash, 2.5 6 pot isn't the fastest thing you'll ever have but its fine by me makes a difference on motorways (cruses now at 85 and had lower revs) from standing start also a big difference

how much then Dopey...ballpark?
Jay

give me a min i will pm you

Have you thought about a V8 which has been gassed up that way you get the refinement/Power of the V8 petrol but the economy of running on LPG.


Jim

Go for the petrol i have just gone from a 2.5d to a 4.6 and the performance is vast between the two. This is just an opinion but why tune a 2.5d, surley in the long run you are over stressing the engine and asking it to do somthing that is was not designed to do. The petrol engine is what makes a range rover a range rover smooth, refined and a bit of an animal when you want it. Again this is only an opinon and you do have to take fuel econamy into account the petrol gulps fuel and the diesel just drinks it.

spinners said:

Go for the petrol i have just gone from a 2.5d to a 4.6 and the performance is vast between the two. This is just an opinion but why tune a 2.5d, surley in the long run you are over stressing the engine and asking it to do somthing that is was not designed to do. The petrol engine is what makes a range rover a range rover smooth, refined and a bit of an animal when you want it. Again this is only an opinon and you do have to take fuel econamy into account the petrol gulps fuel and the diesel just drinks it.

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Now hears the rub (and its not the first time i have been told this either) when BMW gave the engine to Land Rove for the RR they didn’t want it to out perform there own brand 4X4 so they chipped it (the Landy RR) with a less powerful chip the chip I have now (which is used in all BMW Manufactured cars using the 2.5 6 pot) is the chip its meant to have and wad designed for, so it isn’t under powered and its not over powered, its as it should be, with the chip i now have and the intercooler, my MPG is also a little better, on motorways it cruses now, with lower RPM, i myself would love a V but i couldn’t run it they way it drinks petrol, so its a compromise, and i know of 2 people who (and i advised them NOT to buy petrol) went and sold on and got a diesel, i have driven LOADS of RR and discos (i used to work for Virgin Atlantic as a chauffeur, and we used to swap them over from new every 10,000 miles or 3 months (the 10,000 always came up first) and I have driven every engine and size make and model of Landy from new, that’s why I know (for me) the 2.5 BMW is the best for me

Just out of curiousity what 4x4 were bmw building at the time they gave the 6 banger to land rover ?
As far as performance the bmw 525 was 161bhp at the wheels and the range rover was 134bhp so how is this a detuned version as the bm is a road car higher ratio in the box and 40mpg, and the range rover has a off/on road gear box and a transfer box lower ratio and 25mpg. So the range rover has a higher tuned engine as oppose to the bm as if you took the transfer box away adding 30-40 bhp and a higher ratio box + 25 - 30 bhp the range rover would be 169bhp which is 8bhp higher than the bmw.

I have got a 200tdi disco but when i got my 2.5 DHSE i could not believe they where the same size engine.Disco pulls well but the DHSE just flies ,i think the little box on the inner wing may help .

Company Name: BMW Model No: 525 Engine Size: 2.5 TDS Fuel Type: TDS Transmission: M/A Year From: 9/92 Year To: 4/97

spinners said:

Just out of curiousity what 4x4 were bmw building at the time they gave the 6 banger to land rover ?
As far as performance the bmw 525 was 161bhp at the wheels and the range rover was 134bhp so how is this a detuned version as the bm is a road car higher ratio in the box and 40mpg, and the range rover has a off/on road gear box and a transfer box lower ratio and 25mpg. So the range rover has a higher tuned engine as oppose to the bm as if you took the transfer box away adding 30-40 bhp and a higher ratio box + 25 - 30 bhp the range rover would be 169bhp which is 8bhp higher than the bmw.

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sorry spinners just saw your post ^^^