Ping Richard (Beamends)

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Badger

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• Aug 24, 2005

• #1

Hi Richard, have you got an airflow sensor for a discoII V8 yet? Notice your
website says it's pending? (ERR7171)
Cheers,
Badger.

PS Don't you just hate gas backfires!!

 

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Steve

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• Aug 24, 2005

• #2

"Badger" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Hi Richard, have you got an airflow sensor for a discoII V8 yet? Notice
your
> website says it's pending? (ERR7171)
> Cheers,
> Badger.
>
> PS Don't you just hate gas backfires!!

Carburettors. <smug grin>

Steve

 

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Austin Shackles

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• Aug 24, 2005

• #3

On or around Wed, 24 Aug 2005 20:48:39 +0000 (UTC), "Badger"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>Hi Richard, have you got an airflow sensor for a discoII V8 yet? Notice your
>website says it's pending? (ERR7171)
>Cheers,
>Badger.
>
>PS Don't you just hate gas backfires!!
>

must be more delicate than the old hotwire, then. Never hurt that having a
backfire up it.
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is to be none the less free than you were before."
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beamendsltd

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• Aug 25, 2005

• #4

In message <[email protected]>
"Badger" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Richard, have you got an airflow sensor for a discoII V8 yet? Notice your
> website says it's pending? (ERR7171)
> Cheers,
> Badger.

Yep ERR7171 Air Flow Meter - Discovery II - Petrol £104.57 inc VAT
Genune Parts only

>
> PS Don't you just hate gas backfires!!
>

Depends on whether I'm buying or selling

>

Richard

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Badger

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• Aug 25, 2005

• #5

"beamendsltd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:d7d1e19f4d%[email protected]...
> In message <[email protected]>
> "Badger" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi Richard, have you got an airflow sensor for a discoII V8 yet? Notice
>> your
>> website says it's pending? (ERR7171)
>> Cheers,
>> Badger.
>
> Yep ERR7171 Air Flow Meter - Discovery II - Petrol £104.57 inc VAT
> Genune Parts only
>
>>
>> PS Don't you just hate gas backfires!!
>>
>
> Depends on whether I'm buying or selling

Yeah, ok! Thanks for the quick response Richard. Turns out it isn't the AFM
after all, even though everything was pointing at it, it even made no
difference when you disconnected it! Seems it was already in some sort of
default mapping, due to the upstream R/H Lambda probe having failed to a
lean condition ( 0volts ) as it heats up! Could have been the failing probe
that caused the backfire I suppose. Bugger!
Wonder how long it'll be before the other 3 pack in - triple bugger!!!
Damn thing's got 4 probes (pre and post cat) even though it's a UK model - I
was always under the impression that it was only the nanny-state USA models
that were so equiped.
Still, at least the probe is only £53 online......
Badger.

 

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Badger

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• Aug 25, 2005

• #6

"Steve" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Badger" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Hi Richard, have you got an airflow sensor for a discoII V8 yet? Notice
> your
>> website says it's pending? (ERR7171)
>> Cheers,
>> Badger.
>>
>> PS Don't you just hate gas backfires!!
>
> Carburettors. <smug grin>

Ah, yes, old fashioned fuel metering devices that need relatively regular
tweaking to remain somewhere close to reasonable fuel mixture ratios,
affected by vibration, sideslopes and incompetents with screwdrivers that
think they know how to tweak them! Giving only low performance and economy
efficiency percentages when compared to the much more accurate modern
injection systems. ;-)

If only the modern systems could be fixed at the side of the road by the
same (or a similar) screwdriver-wielding incompetent!! Hahaha.
Badger.

P.S. I quite categorically refuse to include the flapper-type efi system
within the heading of "modern", it is an archaic device, only producing a
reasonable power increase over carbs due to the improved inlet manifold
design!!

 

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Badger

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• Aug 25, 2005

• #7

"Austin Shackles" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On or around Wed, 24 Aug 2005 20:48:39 +0000 (UTC), "Badger"
> <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>
>>Hi Richard, have you got an airflow sensor for a discoII V8 yet? Notice
>>your
>>website says it's pending? (ERR7171)
>>Cheers,
>>Badger.
>>
>>PS Don't you just hate gas backfires!!
>>
>
> must be more delicate than the old hotwire, then. Never hurt that having
> a
> backfire up it.

They don't like it up them, you know!!
Badger.

 

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Austin Shackles

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• Aug 25, 2005

• #8

On or around Thu, 25 Aug 2005 21:05:45 +0000 (UTC), "Badger"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>
>"Austin Shackles" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> On or around Wed, 24 Aug 2005 20:48:39 +0000 (UTC), "Badger"
>> <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>>
>>>Hi Richard, have you got an airflow sensor for a discoII V8 yet? Notice
>>>your
>>>website says it's pending? (ERR7171)
>>>Cheers,
>>>Badger.
>>>
>>>PS Don't you just hate gas backfires!!
>>>
>>
>> must be more delicate than the old hotwire, then. Never hurt that having
>> a
>> backfire up it.
>
>They don't like it up them, you know!!

They're doing a set of DVDs of Dad's Army...

 

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Steve

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• Aug 26, 2005

• #9

"Badger" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> Damn thing's got 4 probes (pre and post cat) even though it's a UK model -
I
> was always under the impression that it was only the nanny-state USA
models
> that were so equiped.
> Still, at least the probe is only £53 online......
> Badger.
>
>

Carbure.... oh never mind. ;o)

Steve

 

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Lee_D

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• Aug 25, 2005

• #10

"Badger" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Ah, yes, old fashioned fuel metering devices that need relatively regular
> tweaking to remain somewhere close to reasonable fuel mixture ratios,
> affected by vibration, sideslopes and incompetents with screwdrivers that
> think they know how to tweak them! Giving only low performance and economy
> efficiency percentages when compared to the much more accurate modern
> injection systems. ;-)
>
> If only the modern systems could be fixed at the side of the road by the
> same (or a similar) screwdriver-wielding incompetent!! Hahaha.
> Badger.
>
> P.S. I quite categorically refuse to include the flapper-type efi system
> within the heading of "modern", it is an archaic device, only producing a
> reasonable power increase over carbs due to the improved inlet manifold
> design!!

So are you pro or anti Carbs then?

;0)

Lee D

 

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Badger

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• Aug 26, 2005

• #11

"Austin Shackles" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On or around Thu, 25 Aug 2005 21:05:45 +0000 (UTC), "Badger"
> <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>
>>
>>"Austin Shackles" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>> On or around Wed, 24 Aug 2005 20:48:39 +0000 (UTC), "Badger"
>>> <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>>>
>>>>Hi Richard, have you got an airflow sensor for a discoII V8 yet? Notice
>>>>your
>>>>website says it's pending? (ERR7171)
>>>>Cheers,
>>>>Badger.
>>>>
>>>>PS Don't you just hate gas backfires!!
>>>>
>>>
>>> must be more delicate than the old hotwire, then. Never hurt that
>>> having
>>> a
>>> backfire up it.
>>
>>They don't like it up them, you know!!
>
> They're doing a set of DVDs of Dad's Army...

Only after I've bought the Dukes of Hazard boxed set though! Hmmmm....
Daisy Duke......

Badger.

 

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Badger

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• Aug 26, 2005

• #12

"Steve" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Badger" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>
>> Damn thing's got 4 probes (pre and post cat) even though it's a UK
>> model -
> I
>> was always under the impression that it was only the nanny-state USA
> models
>> that were so equiped.
>> Still, at least the probe is only £53 online......
>> Badger.
>>
>>
>
> Carbure.... oh never mind. ;o)
>
> Steve

Yeah, ok, point taken. ;-)
Badger.

 

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Badger

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• Aug 26, 2005

• #13

"Lee_D" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Badger" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Ah, yes, old fashioned fuel metering devices that need relatively regular
>> tweaking to remain somewhere close to reasonable fuel mixture ratios,
>> affected by vibration, sideslopes and incompetents with screwdrivers that
>> think they know how to tweak them! Giving only low performance and
>> economy efficiency percentages when compared to the much more accurate
>> modern injection systems. ;-)
>>
>> If only the modern systems could be fixed at the side of the road by the
>> same (or a similar) screwdriver-wielding incompetent!! Hahaha.
>> Badger.
>>
>> P.S. I quite categorically refuse to include the flapper-type efi system
>> within the heading of "modern", it is an archaic device, only producing a
>> reasonable power increase over carbs due to the improved inlet manifold
>> design!!
>
> So are you pro or anti Carbs then?

I am neither pro nor anti, I tend to sit on the fence as each system has
it's own merits. If you put a gun to my head then I dare say I'd swing
towards EFI purely because of the superior fuel metering qualities over
carbs (original flapper comments being taken into consideration, of course),
but I have a soft spot for a pair (or even two pairs) of SU's.
If, however, you wish to use as a comparison Strombergs or Holley's, then I
am definitely anti-carb!
Badger.

 

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Samuel

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• Aug 29, 2005

• #14

> I am neither pro nor anti, I tend to sit on the fence as each system has
> it's own merits. If you put a gun to my head then I dare say I'd swing
> towards EFI purely because of the superior fuel metering qualities over
> carbs (original flapper comments being taken into consideration, of
course),
> but I have a soft spot for a pair (or even two pairs) of SU's.
> If, however, you wish to use as a comparison Strombergs or Holley's, then
I
> am definitely anti-carb!
> Badger.
>

i probably agree with you on the strombergs (175 cd's are bloody awful), but
holleys? they are awesome. at least my mates tricked up 5 litre holden
commodore with four-barrel 650 cfm holley was an absolute screamer to drive.
huge improvement over the quadrajet he had before.

Sam.

 

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Badger

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• Aug 29, 2005

• #15

"Samuel" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> I am neither pro nor anti, I tend to sit on the fence as each system has
>> it's own merits. If you put a gun to my head then I dare say I'd swing
>> towards EFI purely because of the superior fuel metering qualities over
>> carbs (original flapper comments being taken into consideration, of
> course),
>> but I have a soft spot for a pair (or even two pairs) of SU's.
>> If, however, you wish to use as a comparison Strombergs or Holley's, then
> I
>> am definitely anti-carb!
>> Badger.
>>
>
> i probably agree with you on the strombergs (175 cd's are bloody awful),
> but
> holleys? they are awesome. at least my mates tricked up 5 litre holden
> commodore with four-barrel 650 cfm holley was an absolute screamer to
> drive.
> huge improvement over the quadrajet he had before.
>
> Sam.

A pair of SU's, when set up correctly, will give better economy than any
Holley ever can, due to the superior fuel metering control at part throttle,
also the Holley tends not to be too happy with fairly extreme changes in
attitude (something landy's do quite regularly when used off-road) even with
the "off-road" float setup. The holley is an excellent carb for
straight-line drag-strip type usage though, and copes relatively well with
normal road use side forces. Webber (Edelbrock) 500 is a better carb all
round (than the holley) for a rover v8 engine though.
Badger.